Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2020 10:34:05 -0400 From: "Dan Langille" <dan@langille.org> To: "Kurt Jaeger" <pi@FreeBSD.org> Cc: freebsd-ports <freebsd-ports@freebsd.org>, "mandree@freebsd.org" <mandree@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: mail/mailman v3? Message-ID: <a7d09766-dacc-4a7f-bf08-ae6ddd34d794@www.fastmail.com> In-Reply-To: <E0A0D488-3FEC-48D8-9425-08432321719C@langille.org> References: <FD5DA99A-4B99-4730-BD8E-7079416A56BB@langille.org> <20200424130424.GJ39563@home.opsec.eu> <E0A0D488-3FEC-48D8-9425-08432321719C@langille.org>
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On Fri, Apr 24, 2020, at 9:32 AM, Dan Langille wrote: > > On Apr 24, 2020, at 9:04 AM, Kurt Jaeger <pi@FreeBSD.org> wrote: > > > > Hi! > > > >> With mail/mailman being Python 2.7 (which is end-of-life), and mailman 3 being Python 3 compatible: > >> > >> Do you know of any plans to port Mailman 3? > > > > There's already a PR about that: > > > > https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=225543 > > Now 2 years old I see. Good start. > > > The patch itself is fine, but we need run-tests. > > > > This means: If you want to help, > > - use that patch, > > - build mailman3, > > - and install it somewhere and > > - test all the use-cases that you can think of > > - then write some docs on how to move an existing mailman2 site > > to mailman3 > > I'm guessing that's over and above what I found at: > > https://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/migration.html > > > > - and give ideas how to handle list archives > > *especially* keeping the URLs identical (!) > > I think the existing archives are static HTML. I have some archives dating > back to 1999: https://www.unixathome.org/adsl/ > > There might be some server-side rewrites or aliases to ensure that this > URL always works, before and after mailman3: > > https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ports/2020-April/118352.html <https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ports/2020-April/118352.html>; > > Let's compare 2 and 3 lists: > > https://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/ > <https://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/>; > > https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/list/mailman-users@mailman3.org/ > <https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/list/mailman-users@mailman3.org/>; > > They are distinct (ignoring the hostname differences) so keeping the > old alongside the new should be safe. > > > And, speaking as one of the postmaster@ team: > > As lists.freebsd.org uses mailman2, we need this! > > > > postmaster@ has not yet decided if we really want to move to mailman3, > > so we are open to other options. The mail archive is the biggest hurdle 8-( > > Yes, we can't lose those. I have my own archives to support. I see the mailman lists themselves are now on Mailman 3: https://mail.python.org/archives/list/mailman-announce@python.org/thread/HHQN7V6NY7G5CTOSC3WBU7VXW5KEBGVO/ -- Dan Langille dan@langille.org
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