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Date:      Thu, 21 Feb 2019 08:00:48 +0000
From:      Matthew Seaman <matthew@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Jonathan Anderson <jonathan@FreeBSD.org>, Alex Dupre <ale@FreeBSD.org>
Cc:        Colin Percival <cperciva@freebsd.org>, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Amazon AMIs
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From: Matthew Seaman <matthew@FreeBSD.org>
To: Jonathan Anderson <jonathan@FreeBSD.org>, Alex Dupre <ale@FreeBSD.org>
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On 20/02/2019 22:32, Jonathan Anderson wrote:
> On 20 Feb 2019, at 18:50, Alex Dupre wrote:
>=20
>> Colin Percival wrote:
>>> Last time I looked at this, we weren't handling hotplug/hotunplug of
>>> "NVMe"
>>> disks properly on the m5/c5/etc. instances.=C2=A0 I opted to recommen=
d the
>>> instance
>>> which completely works rather than the one with slightly better
>>> performance...
>>
>> It does happen only on a few instances, but I get some freezes on new =
t3
>> machines: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D235856
>>
>> They are indeed cheaper and more performant, but not 100% reliable in
>> every workload.
>=20
> https://www.xkcd.com/937 ?
>=20

Yes, indeed.  That's a very good reason not to recommend the newest and
shiniest.  I haven't seen any problems so far, but then again it's only
been a day or so and we haven't got into the full testing regime quite
yet.  I'll let you know if we do run into problems.

Is there work on hot-plug NVMe going on?  ISTR jmg@ mentioning hotplug
PCI at the dev summit at Stockholm EuroBSDCon, but not much since then.

	Cheers,

	Matthew



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