Date: Sat, 10 May 2014 08:21:57 +0200 From: Baptiste Daroussin <bapt@FreeBSD.org> To: Steven Hartland <killing@multiplay.co.uk> Cc: marino@freebsd.org, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Unable to use ports on 8.3 or earlier since r352986 Message-ID: <20140510062157.GH36036@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net> In-Reply-To: <EC9A150072C94C44BA7C20D396B52B2E@multiplay.co.uk> References: <495738D66545411BA78B31A6615EFA48@multiplay.co.uk> <CAHcXP%2BcyLKCXejUT=A9sGnwGQ-0KfG2VLnzEd79KBGy238=jzQ@mail.gmail.com> <EDCDD12BB5FA4EACA2A91C4A108CAD5C@multiplay.co.uk> <536D05E6.10905@marino.st> <20140509202212.GA39777@ambrisko.com> <536D3E7E.6070209@marino.st> <EC9A150072C94C44BA7C20D396B52B2E@multiplay.co.uk>
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--QDd5rp1wjxlDmy9q Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 12:26:36AM +0100, Steven Hartland wrote: >=20 > ----- Original Message -----=20 > From: "John Marino" <freebsd.contact@marino.st> >=20 >=20 > > On 5/9/2014 22:22, Doug Ambrisko wrote: > >> On Fri, May 09, 2014 at 06:44:22PM +0200, John Marino wrote: > >> | I'll stress the previous point again. The change that broke this was > >> | desired 8 months ago. It was applied as soon as it was legal to do = so. > >>=20 > >> FYI, because some might be legal doesn't necessarily make it in the > >> best interest of users. > >=20 > > It should be obvious that nobody breaks trees intentionally for fun. > > It's done in the overall best interest of users. >=20 > That said based soley on the change log this compatibility removal did se= em > to be done with no clear benefit appart from removing an old compat shims, > yes its nice to remove old hacks when they aren't needed any more, but > if they aren't causing any problems when leaving it for users to catch > up is a good thing to consider. >=20 > Don't get me wrong, progress is definitely good, but if this was done just > to remove old hacks like the commit message indicated then it would be > nice for users if it was delayed until required so to speak. >=20 A hack has been added to bmake in base just for the sake of being able to h= ave the ports tree compatible with bmake and old make because all our versions = of make were able to understand :tl and :tu but the version in 8.3 This hack to allow this is quite ugly and it was promissed to bmake maintai= ner to allow them to remove it as soon as possible aka after the EOL of 8.3 Now if you really want to continue with 8.3 just install devel/bmake from a ports tree check out from prior the commit your point at and then use it wi= th newer checkouts regards, Bapt --QDd5rp1wjxlDmy9q Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAlNtxYUACgkQ8kTtMUmk6EzEpQCgifB6Ogc2mmDvYNPEHQcqwasD M7cAn0Gp0HcHKKNhVVQ+ZCjcUToiuRVW =oz1h -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --QDd5rp1wjxlDmy9q--
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