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Date:      Wed, 3 Dec 2003 22:19:02 +0100
From:      Melvyn Sopacua <freebsd-questions@webteckies.org>
To:        fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com, "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD. ORG" <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
Cc:        listone@deathbeforedecaf.net
Subject:   Re: network security sysctl mib's
Message-ID:  <200312032219.02710.freebsd-questions@webteckies.org>
In-Reply-To: <MIEPLLIBMLEEABPDBIEGEEDPEPAA.fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com>
References:  <MIEPLLIBMLEEABPDBIEGEEDPEPAA.fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com>

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On Tuesday 02 December 2003 18:29, fbsd_user wrote:

> Thank you for responding with pointers to where I
> can find some very limited documented info on the
> MIB's I asked about.

You're welcome.


> The only conclusion one can draw from the test results is that
> IPFILTER gets access to the packets before the log_in_vain  Mib
> does.  To extrapolate on this, it would indicate the other network
> security Mibs I pointed out in my original post are in the same boat
> as log_in_vain.

I haven't looked at specifics, but this sounds logical to me. MIB's control=
 or=20
inform about system states. A firewall's task is to prevent stuff from=20
entering the system.

> The remaining question then is does the IPFW firewall work the same
> way. If it does then all those network security Mib's only have
> effect on FBSD systems that are not running an firewall.

Not necessarily. You blocked all traffic, so the system does not register t=
he=20
specific event you're looking at. Did you try just enabling the firewall bu=
t=20
setting an "allow all" rule?


> It's my opinion that in today's world of such emphasis on network
> security that an clear understand of these MIB's are absolutely
> necessary, indispensable, requisite information that has to be
> disseminated to the FBSD community and not buried in some obscure,
> very hard to find place like it currently is.

Documentation on many MIB's is hard to find indeed. Maybe you should join t=
he=20
documentation team to help out - but - in this specific case, the 2 ( ipfw2=
=20
on -CURRENT makes 3 even) firewall implementations are well documented and=
=20
should instead be used if one is concerned about security, because they can=
=20
log and handle anything *before* it enters the system.

> Here is the documentation I created in the sysctl.conf file. What do
> you think about it?

I would have to look at specifics and I think security@freebsd.org would be=
 a=20
more appropreate place to get some definitive answers.

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Melvyn

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