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Date:      Wed, 25 Sep 2002 18:30:27 -0400 (EDT)
From:      Stephen Hovey <shovey@buffnet.net>
To:        Eric_Stanfield@kenokozie.com
Cc:        freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   RE: aol postmaster
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.05.10209251829250.4870-100000@buffnet11.buffnet.net>
In-Reply-To: <OF5B09F7A5.63523592-ON86256C3F.0079212C@kka.com>

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Did you try puttin that IP thru ordb?

Its possible the conditions arent reported correctly by aol, but might be
via ordb..

I had a couple of upgraded machine suddenly vulnerable to the % bull..
took me ages but found a worka round.

On Wed, 25 Sep 2002 Eric_Stanfield@kenokozie.com wrote:

> 
> Now some poor sap will be searching through usenet, stumble across our
> topic, and just see 15 posts of commiseration with no magic number for AOL
> heh.
> 
> As far as I can tell, AOL's script sucks.  My server is not open to relay
> so the only thing I can hope to do is contact them directly (since they
> ignore all emails I've sent over the last 3 months), continue to change the
> things ip address every once in a while, or ultimately sue them (and
> continue to change ip's for the 2 years it takes to come to settlement
> heheh).
> 
> Thanks for all the responses.
> 
> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
> 
> Eric Stanfield, K2Access
> Keno Kozie Associates
> 222 N LaSalle #1500
> Chicago, IL 60606
> (312) 332-3000
> 
> 
> 
> 
>                                                                                               
>                     "Dave                                                                     
>                     [Hawk-Systems]"            To:     "Denny Reiter" <denny@reiters.org>,    
>                     <dave@hawk-systems.        "Ralph Forsythe" <rf-list@centerone.com>       
>                     com>                       cc:     <Eric_Stanfield@kenokozie.com>,        
>                     Sent by:                   <freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG>                      
>                     owner-freebsd-isp@F        Subject:     RE: aol postmaster                
>                     reeBSD.ORG                                                                
>                                                                                               
>                                                                                               
>                     09/25/2002 03:14 PM                                                       
>                                                                                               
>                                                                                               
> 
> 
> 
> >> The idea of AOL testing servers to cut down on SPAM is rather amusing to
> >> me.  I always thought that unless an AOL account was used for mass
> >> emailings, they took a hands-off approach to the issue.  SPAM detection
> is
> >> better left to things like spamassassin anyway.
> >
> >Yes, AOL does indeed test SMTP servers for open relays and then
> >blacklists them if they aren't fixed.  We've been notified about a
> >couple that customers on our network had set up.
> 
> Nice to be so big that you are immune to criticism...  You can block
> spammers,
> and yet are the source for a large amount of the spam yourself.  Not like
> we can
> all just block AOL and call it even.  :(
> 
> On that note though, doesn't take much to batton down your SMTP servers so
> they
> are not an open relay, then if they block you, sue for anti-competitive
> practices or something.
> 
> Dave
> 
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