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Date:      Thu, 12 Mar 1998 23:52:35 -0500 (EST)
From:      Brian Feldman <green@feldman.dyn.ml.org>
To:        Chuck Robey <chuckr@glue.umd.edu>
Cc:        Brian Feldman <green@feldman.dyn.ml.org>, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: C++ libs are broken
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.3.96.980312234755.2804C-100000@localhost>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.3.96.980309184924.438U-100000@localhost>

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Yes, you're right. I was quite miffed when I wrote that message. It's just
that 3.0 can be so stable, and working, I hate to see it get messed up all
the time. Some people really take too much liberty committing any change
they want. I know right now, Alpha stuff, ELF stuff, and soft-updates
(bleh, it's SO unstable!), are getting worked on, but I think people
really do need to test their changes and compile to make sure they didn't
break anything like this. I really should read commit mail, but I have no
good mail box to use, since this is just my dynamic IP'd 28.8 part-time
dial-up anyway. *sigh* I need to go send a pr, because mounted
synchronously, mount's output shows my drives with async (!) and sync
write.... majorly weird. Maybe we need to get softupdates backed out a
bit.
Happy alpha-testing,
Brian Feldman

On Mon, 9 Mar 1998, Chuck Robey wrote:

> On Mon, 9 Mar 1998, Brian Feldman wrote:
> 
> > 
> > You know, I'm surprised I've only seen this twice (cut out the damn
> > stackable FS talk, so we can talk about what's happening NOW!), and have
> > noticed it quite a bit myself, that the newest C++ libraries ARE BROKEN! I
> > wish someone might pay a tiny bit of attention to this, because it's
> > really annoying (2.2.5-RELEASE's C++ libs are less than fully functional
> > to use). Might someone want to see what commit changes have been made and
> > fix these libraries?
> 
> Keep some perspective ... current's been the target of some folks who
> abused the privilege, but the stuff about the filesystems IS a good, and
> really interesting "current" topic.  You can ask about the C++ libs, but
> not at the expense of what others are doing ... that's selfish.
> 
> Besides, if you're reading the commit mail, you know that the C++ libs
> are currently the topic of a lot of work, they haven't been badly busted
> all that long, give them some time.  They already know things are
> unstable (the reason is because the ELF stuff *and* the Alpha stuff are
> both hitting the C++ libs at the same time) so this just calls for a
> little patience.  A heads up ("this is broken") is a good thing, but not
> calling off debate of important topics in design.
> 
> > 
> > -Brian Feldman
> > brianfeldman@hotmail.com
> > 
> > 
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> > 
> > 
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