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Date:      Sun, 20 Dec 1998 17:37:05 +0200
From:      Ruslan Shevchenko <Ruslan@Shevchenko.Kiev.UA>
To:        Narvi <narvi@haldjas.folklore.ee>
Cc:        rssh@grad.kiev.ua, "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@zippy.cdrom.com>, Terry Lambert <tlambert@primenet.com>, dkelly@hiwaay.net, FreeBSD-Hackers@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Back to sysinstall (was Re: Fortran in the base system (was Re: sysinstall))
Message-ID:  <367D19A1.B83221D8@Shevchenko.Kiev.UA>
References:  <Pine.BSF.3.96.981220094758.716A-100000@haldjas.folklore.ee>

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Narvi wrote:

> On Sat, 19 Dec 1998, Ruslan Shevchenko wrote:
>
> > Jordan K. Hubbard wrote:
> >
> > > >       a) to get the new package system, we need good C/C++ compiler
> > >
> > > yes.
> > >
> > > >       b) to get good C/C++ compiler, we need TenDRA
> >
> >  It yet not able to compile STL.
>
> This sentence is unparseable. What is not yet able to compile STL? And
> What do you mean by compiling STL?

It means, that I spend  many time, trying to port STL port to TenDRA,

After I fix  all  *misunderstandig*   of
 "TenDRA C++  standart "  and STL,   I discovered,
that any program wich use STL and have more 10 lines in length ,  cause
"Internal error" message during compiling.


>
> Among all the other things:
>         a) gcc is not STL compatible, it just doesn't fully support C++
>            yet, plus there are some misc bogons of the (let's do it so, it
>            will in time make it to the standard) kind.

egcs is, in some sence.

>
>         b) TenDRA as produced by the port is unusable. Among other things,
>            the port does not for some reason include support for long
>            long (cure with the addition of one line to the build config
>            file)

You can add this support by command line option

  C++ standart have not longlong type.

>
>         c) TenDRA implements full C++ as of Nov. 1997 draft. It does not,
>            however, come with the full set of standard libraries. As it is
>            combinable with the SGI STL implementation, the only piece
>            really missing is the iostreams library. Compared to what will
>            be needed to be doem to get the system compilable with TenDRA,
>            it is a minor problem.

Usially, better to  check such  information  before declaring ;)

I ported GNU Iostream to TenDRA,  but  I was  unable  to  port STL.

And as I guess, the development of TenDRA is stopped.

In principle, it is quite good idea to get TenDRA  used, but only if anybody
with good knovellage of it internals  decide to support it.

>
> [snip]
>
>         Sander
>
>         There is no love, no good, no happiness and no future -
>         all these are just illusions.


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