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Date:      Tue, 20 Apr 1999 16:45:30 +0930
From:      Greg Lehey <grog@lemis.com>
To:        Alfred Perlstein <bright@rush.net>
Cc:        advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: You can take my source.  (fwd)
Message-ID:  <19990420164530.A40482@lemis.com>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.3.96.990420020236.11384H-100000@cygnus.rush.net>; from Alfred Perlstein on Tue, Apr 20, 1999 at 02:08:39AM -0500
References:  <19990420161003.Y40482@lemis.com> <Pine.BSF.3.96.990420020236.11384H-100000@cygnus.rush.net>

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On Tuesday, 20 April 1999 at  2:08:39 -0500, Alfred Perlstein wrote:
> On Tue, 20 Apr 1999, Greg Lehey wrote:
> 
>> On Tuesday, 20 April 1999 at  1:53:17 -0500, Alfred Perlstein wrote:
>>> 
>>>  * (c) UNIX System Laboratories, Inc.
>>>  * All or some portions of this file are derived from material licensed
>>>  * to the University of California by American Telephone and Telegraph
>>>  * Co. or Unix System Laboratories, Inc. and are reproduced herein with
>>>  * the permission of UNIX System Laboratories, Inc.
>>> 
>>> Am i doing my part?  :)
>> 
>> I'm not sure.  I would think you could have chosen a better example.
>> If you have really sent this to Microsoft, I think you should at least
>> retract your statement.
> 
> Maybe i'm being a bit clueless here (hey it's happened more times than
> I can count and i'm a bit tired) but doesn't the:
> 
>>>  * Redistribution and use in source and binary forms, with or without
>>>  * modification, are permitted provided that the following conditions
>>>  * are met:
>>>  * 1. Redistributions of source code must retain the above copyright
>>>  *    notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer.
>>>  * 2. Redistributions in binary form must reproduce the above copyright
>>>  *    notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer in the
>>>  *    documentation and/or other materials provided with the distribution.
>>>  * 3. All advertising materials mentioning features or use of this software
>>>  *    must display the following acknowledgement:
>>>  *      This product includes software developed by the University of
>>>  *      California, Berkeley and its contributors.
>>>  * 4. Neither the name of the University nor the names of its contributors
>>>  *    may be used to endorse or promote products derived from this software
>>>  *    without specific prior written permission.
>>>  *
>>>  * THIS SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED BY THE REGENTS AND CONTRIBUTORS ``AS IS'' AND
> 
> ..
> 
> constitute the way that most of the BSD license works?

This part does.  Unfortunately, the license you sent included not just
the Berkeley License, but also an AT&T license.  The bit I quoted at
the very top (USL license) is definitely *not* part of the Berkeley
license, and in fact closer to the licenses to be found in System V
sources.

> I'll retract the statement if you disagree as i do value your judgement.

I think you'll understand now.
 
> perhaps you would like to go over the email with a red pen (sorta) and
> i'll submit a revised post?

Hmm.  I don't have the whole message any more, but I think the rest is
OK.  Just to be sure, I think this is pretty much the basis:

 * Copyright (c) 1990, 1993
 *	The Regents of the University of California.  All rights reserved.
 *
 * Redistribution and use in source and binary forms, with or without
 * modification, are permitted provided that the following conditions
 * are met:
 * 1. Redistributions of source code must retain the above copyright
 *    notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer.
 * 2. Redistributions in binary form must reproduce the above copyright
 *    notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer in the
 *    documentation and/or other materials provided with the distribution.
 * 3. All advertising materials mentioning features or use of this software
 *    must display the following acknowledgement:
 *	This product includes software developed by the University of
 *	California, Berkeley and its contributors.
 * 4. Neither the name of the University nor the names of its contributors
 *    may be used to endorse or promote products derived from this software
 *    without specific prior written permission.
 *
 * THIS SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED BY THE REGENTS AND CONTRIBUTORS ``AS IS'' AND
 * ANY EXPRESS OR IMPLIED WARRANTIES, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, THE
 * IMPLIED WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY AND FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE
 * ARE DISCLAIMED.  IN NO EVENT SHALL THE REGENTS OR CONTRIBUTORS BE LIABLE
 * FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, EXEMPLARY, OR CONSEQUENTIAL
 * DAMAGES (INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, PROCUREMENT OF SUBSTITUTE GOODS
 * OR SERVICES; LOSS OF USE, DATA, OR PROFITS; OR BUSINESS INTERRUPTION)
 * HOWEVER CAUSED AND ON ANY THEORY OF LIABILITY, WHETHER IN CONTRACT, STRICT
 * LIABILITY, OR TORT (INCLUDING NEGLIGENCE OR OTHERWISE) ARISING IN ANY WAY
 * OUT OF THE USE OF THIS SOFTWARE, EVEN IF ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF
 * SUCH DAMAGE.

Greg
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