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Date:      Fri, 04 Sep 1998 08:55:39 +0000
From:      Mike Smith <mike@smith.net.au>
To:        Andrzej Bialecki <abial@nask.pl>
Cc:        current@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   kzip in the brave new ELF
Message-ID:  <199809040855.IAA03578@word.smith.net.au>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 04 Sep 1998 10:41:36 %2B0200." <Pine.BSF.4.02A.9809041036450.26306-100000@korin.warman.org.pl> 

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> On Thu, 3 Sep 1998, Mike Smith wrote:
> 
> > > ...and I should add to this, that other floppy-generation related tools
> > > are also affected. E.g. ELF kzip doesn't work, because it tries to link an
> > > ELF stub with a.out kernel.
> > 
> > kzip is obsoleted by the new bootloader, although I'm not sure that's 
> 
> Hmm... I need to take a closer look at the new bootloader, then. I
> remember you were saying that it doesn't work yet with HDDs, right? (or
> were they floppies..)

I've explicitly left out the major/minor calculation for harddisks 
until the extender is ready (a few days), so at the moment it's not 
"ready" as such.

> > going to help your case much. (kzip is smaller than the new 
> > bootloader).
> 
> Then we probably want to keep it, because there is already problem with
> space on the boot.flp. However, this also probably means that the
> installation floppies will stay a.out, which also means running an a.out
> kernel. Am I right?

Right now, the kernel is a.out; it's not clear if we're going to be 
ready for an ELF kernel or not.  (Personally I think it'd be a good 
thing, but we need some more items first.)  The kzip strategy can be 
made to work with both a.out and ELF, but the latter will need some 
assistance from someone that has an interest in making it work.

If we go for an ELF kernel, but don't get kzip sorted in time, then the 
installation floppy kernel will have to be a.out.  That will probably 
suck just as much if not more.

-- 
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\\  sometimes you're behind.      \\  mike@smith.net.au
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