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Date:      Sun, 29 Aug 1999 19:07:28 -0400 (EDT)
From:      Chris Coleman <chrisc@vmunix.com>
To:        Alfred Perlstein <bright@wintelcom.net>
Cc:        Robert Sexton <robert@kudra.com>, freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Need Pointers on FreeBSD Presentation.
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.10.9908291906540.22332-100000@vnode.vmunix.com>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.05.9908282247220.6392-100000@fw.wintelcom.net>

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Alphred, that is great material for an  article.  Would you write it up
for Daemon News?

Chris Coleman
Daemon News Editor in Chief
http://www.daemonnews.org
Bringing BSD together

On Sat, 28 Aug 1999, Alfred Perlstein wrote:

> 
> 
> On Sat, 28 Aug 1999, Robert Sexton wrote:
> 
> > What have I done?  I've offered to give a FreeBSd presentation to the
> > local Linux Users group.  At first I thought I'd give the standard
> > "Why FreeBSD is good" spiel that I give to my customers.  I realize
> > that they generally trust me, so I don't have to work so hard.
> > However, the User group guy has asked me to 'Compare it with Linux',
> > which leaves me a little cold.  I'll have an opportunity to install it
> > from scratch, to show it off.  I though I'd put the emphasis on 'BSD',
> > with FreeBSD as a particular, Intel/Alpha oriented branch.
> > 
> > I had been thinking along these lines:
> > 
> > 1.  Loose history.
> > 2.  Install it over ethernet from my machine.
> > 3.  Why its good for admins:
> >     like most of the other BSD's.  Administration is simpler.
> >     Easy maintenence via cvsup, make world, etc.
> >     ports.
> >     compatibility with Linux/SCO/BDSI binaries.
> > 4.  Demo cvsup.
> > 5.  Install a port.
> > 
> > Any other ideas? 
> 
> Along the lines of a cooking show...
> 
> After the cvsup, start a "make buildworld"
> 
> Have another machine with an already built world on hand...
> 
> show them how after buildworld, you can mount the /usr/src and /usr/obj
> dirs and do upgrades as simply as: 
> 
> (after starting NFS on the client/servers)
> mkdir /usr/src /usr/obj
> mount buildserver:/usr/src /usr/src
> mount buildserver:/usr/obj /usr/obj
> cd /usr/src
> make installworld
> 
> One of the greatest assests to people managing labs or farms of
> FreeBSD boxes imo.
> 
> the same "install/upgrade server" can be done via ports.
> 
> Also explain the concept of the entire distro being stable or
> current and maintained, instead of "should i grab this RPM or
> this newer BETA" it becomes: "well they just put it into stable,
> i guess it's time to buildworld..."
> 
> -Alfred
> 
> 
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