Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1999 08:02:54 -0400 (EDT) From: Troy Settle <st@i-Plus.net> To: Chuck Robey <chuckr@picnic.mat.net> Cc: jack <jack@germanium.xtalwind.net>, FreeBSD-ISP <FreeBSD-isp@FreeBSD.ORG> Subject: Re: sendmail relaying Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.05.9906270749210.81304-100000@cliff.i-plus.net> In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.10.9906261900470.53344-100000@picnic.mat.net>
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On Sat, 26 Jun 1999, Chuck Robey wrote:
> > > I thank all you guys who showed me what to do! Could I press one step
> > > further, and ask how I get procmail wired in,
> >
> > <scarcasm>
> > cd /usr/ports/mail/procmail
> > make install clean
> > man {procmail(1), procmailrc(5), procmailsc(5), procmailex(5)}
> > </scarcasm>
>
> I'll tell you something, Jack, sarcasm nearly always reflects on the
> user, not on the target. Think about it, it's true.
Better to be sarcastic in the answer than to come straight out and explain
to you that participants of this list should know how to do basic stuff
like this long before they start posting. Personally, I'd have
outright flamed you had I been following the list a little better.
> > > so that I can use
> > > automated filtering based upon some net database like the realtime
> > > blackhole list?
> >
> > You don't use procmail for that, that's sendmail's job. See
> > /usr/src/contrib/sendmail/cf/README
> > Specifically
> > rbl Turns on rejection of hosts found in the Realtime Blackhole
> > List. If an argument is provided it is used as the
> > name sever to contact; otherwise, the main RBL server at
> > rbl.maps.vix.com is used. For details, see
> > http://maps.vix.com/rbl/.
> > under FEATURES
>
> But I wanted to filter incoming mail here, Jack, so I *did* want
> procmail.
You did ask about procmail and filtering. You also explicitly asked about
the RBL. These 2 things are unrelated, which is what Jack tried to make
clear. Both the RBL and using procmail are clearly covered in the default
mc files, and clearly documented at www.sendmail.org. I'm sure it'll be
in V3 of the Bat Book too.
> > > I use Pine as my MTA, and I don't want to change that,
> > > but I'm not sure how to shoehorn procmail into that.
> >
> > Pine (a MUserA, not a MTransferAgent) has no interface with
> > procmail,
>
> I never said it did, I asked how to get procmail working. Well, someone
> else answered me.
Jack quoted you, corrected you, then you have the balls to _DENY_ that you
said what you did in the first place? Good GOD man, did you really have
such a traumatic childhood?
Look Chuck, the vast majority of the posters on this list either own or
operate an ISP. We deal with hundreds, if not thousands, of customer
accounts on a daily basis. We have hundreds of tools that we use to get
the job done. Each of these tools has a name, and each of them either
control the behavior of a specific protocol or service, or they help that
protocol or service get it's job done.
If you are going to ask for help, please be sure you use proper
terminology, or just omit the tools you *think* you're talking about.
From your postings, it's clear that you did at least *some* reading on the
topic, but appearantly it didn't sink in. Often, most of us admins will
find ourselves reading documentation for things we've been using for
years. Sometimes, we'll read it two or four times to make sure we
understand it correctly. Is it really too much to expect that others do
the same before asking mal-formed questions?
--
Troy Settle <st@i-Plus.net>
iPlus Internet Services
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