Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 11:46:42 -0600 From: Don Wilde <Don@Silver-Lynx.com> To: Joseph Scott <joseph.scott@owp.csus.edu> Cc: Wes Peters <wes@softweyr.com>, Bill Fumerola <billf@chimesnet.com>, cjclark@alum.mit.edu, freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: wats so special about freeBSD? Message-ID: <39D23282.E60F806A@Silver-Lynx.com> References: <Pine.BSF.4.21.0009270612280.18245-100000@pebkac.owp.csus.edu>
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Joseph Scott wrote: > > On Wed, 27 Sep 2000, Wes Peters wrote: > > > Joseph Scott wrote: > > > > > > On Fri, 22 Sep 2000, Wes Peters wrote: > > > > > > > OTOH, if you want to install a secure system and don't know what you're > > > > doing, OpenBSD installs a much more secure configuration out of the box. > > > > The afterboot(8) man page helps a neophyte administrator figure out what > > > > they might want to do to continue securing their system. > > > > > > ROFL!!! I'm sorry, I realize this you were serious here, but when I read > > > I almost did fall down laughing. This part just kills me : > > > > > > "if you want to install a secure system and don't know what you're doing > > > ..." > > > > Keep right on laughing, while thinking about the staff of "IT Professionals" > > installing and maintaing the internet gateway at your bank, your city gov't, > > and your local utilities. It is not a laughing matter. > > The laughing part came from the idea that just because they used a > system that installs out of the box in a secure manner doesn't mean they > won't then go on to screw it up. I'm not claiming this as reason to give > up on having a default of a secure install, simply that a secure install > is not a silver bullet. > > Looking at all the different systems that I interact with as a > consumer, yes it makes me more than a little nervous how most > companies/utilities/etc "manage security". > > Strangely enough I was asked to interview for a job that they'd > tried to fill on three different occassion's in past. Their problem > : getting people to apply that new more than "I can display the files in a > directory using ls". And those were the college grads :-( > <plug> There's a new book out by John Taylor Gatto called "The Underground History of American Education," available from http://www.laissezfairebooks.com. It's the story of how a quarter billion kids' brains have been deliberately savaged by American schools. It explains a lot in a lot of areas of American society. Highly recommended! My mother, a died-in-the-wool Dem, called it "horrifying", and there was no doubt in my mind that she believed at least 99% of it. </plug> -- Donald Wilde "Linking Minds and Micros" ================= S i l v e r L y n x =================== PMB 117, 1380 Rio Rancho Blvd SE v: 505-771-0709 f: 771-1356 Rio Rancho, New Mexico 87124 web: http://www.Silver-Lynx.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message
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