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Date:      Fri, 27 Oct 2000 00:18:23 +0200
From:      Poul-Henning Kamp <phk@critter.freebsd.dk>
To:        Wesley Morgan <morganw@volatile.chemicals.tacorp.com>
Cc:        Doug Barton <DougB@gorean.org>, Ed Hall <edhall@weirdnoise.com>, current@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: entropy reseeding is totally broken 
Message-ID:  <5342.972598703@critter>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 26 Oct 2000 18:08:15 EDT." <Pine.BSF.4.21.0010261757580.6460-100000@volatile.chemicals.tacorp.com> 

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In message <Pine.BSF.4.21.0010261757580.6460-100000@volatile.chemicals.tacorp.c
om>, Wesley Morgan writes:
>On Thu, 26 Oct 2000, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:
>
>> I don't really care that much how good my random bits are right after
>> boot, but I do care about my machine coming up quickly.
>
>I don't know about that, look at your boot logs:
>
>Oct 26 17:32:19 catalyst /boot/kernel/kernel: Copyright (c) 1992-2000 The FreeBSD Project.
>Oct 26 17:32:19 catalyst /boot/kernel/kernel: Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994
>Oct 26 17:32:23 catalyst sshd[193]: Generating 768 bit RSA key.
>Oct 26 17:32:23 catalyst sshd[193]: RSA key generation complete.
>
>Those times aren't correct I'm sure, but if I can't get enough entropy for 
>a 768 bit key _very soon_ after boot, we could have a problem.
>
>Somehow, I think everyone should care about that.

You know, I think this thing is being blown out of proportion.

WAY out of proportion.

Yes, there are systems which the administrator will want to set to
	ultra_paranoid=YESDAMNIT!

but for all the machines I have behind firewalls I would like to have
	act_like_a_normal_unix_and_boot_in_finite_time=YESPLEASE


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