Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 15:05:34 +0200 (IST) From: Roman Shterenzon <roman@harmonic.co.il> To: Bosko Milekic <bmilekic@dsuper.net> Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Stability Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10011061457250.24920-100000@shark.harmonic.co.il> In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.21.0011041625160.61713-100000@jehovah.technokratis.com>
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On Sat, 4 Nov 2000, Bosko Milekic wrote: > Hi Marko, > > On Sat, 4 Nov 2000, Marko Cuk wrote: > > > Hello !! > > > > Can anyone explain me, why is FreeBSD known as powerful sistem with > > industrial strenghth and rock stability, but I manage to crash it several > > times. > > > > The bridge code in 4.1x is unstable in conjuction with ipfw, I had several > > problems with Vinum and Raid5 and maschine crashed every day if I used > > something od previously mentioned things. > > I personally did notice some problems with bridging as well, and I > fixed one panic situation in -CURRENT about a month ago. I still have a > Problem-Report assigned to me and am very interested in tracking more of > these down, but really need help from folks running -STABLE as well, and > that can afford to provide some debugging information. > Hence, if you have a complaint about the stability of some component, > please realize that there is very little that developers can do about it > without proper evidence and data. Take a look at the handbook: I've a perfectly good PR about vinum (panics) open. There's no even single follow up (kern/22103). I couldn't stand it any longer, so I'm not able to recreate it since I'm using raid1 on those disks now. I waited for almost one month but aparently nothing was done. (I opened one PR before that but it was badly formatted and had to become closed). I understand that people have other things to do, and FreeBSD is volunteer project, but we shall face the truth - the man page for vinum should state that RAID5 is experimental and prone to crashes. It should be emphasized that it shouldn't be used in sensitive environmets. I know other people for whom it rendered their servers unusable. I managed 8( to crash it today as well. I'll probably move to hardware raid solution instead, I'm quite fed up with vinum. > to find out exactly what's looked for. In short, you should at least > provide a backtrace following the panic/page fault/whatever it is you're > seeing. I've a crash dump of today, perhaps I'll open another PR. --Roman Shterenzon, UNIX System Administrator and Consultant [ Xpert UNIX Systems Ltd., Herzlia, Israel. Tel: +972-9-9522361 ] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message
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