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Date:      Tue, 17 Apr 2001 18:22:26 -0700
From:      "oldfart@gtonet" <oldfart@gtonet.net>
To:        <freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   RE: Windriver, Slackware and FreeBSD
Message-ID:  <BIEHKEFNHFMMJEKCDMLNEEKACHAA.oldfart@gtonet.net>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.21.0104171749510.5391-100000@toxic.magnesium.net>

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I guess, maybe, I wasn't clear enough. I, too, hate to see people laid off.
I've had to lay off others and I've been laid off myself. Cruel or not, it's
a part of the IT world we live and work in. I'm very sure SOME of them are
quite nice people and I wish them no hardships. That said, I could care less
about Linux and if it disappeared from the face of the planet tomorrow, it
wouldn't be too soon for *me*. Maybe I'm a FreeBSD NUT, maybe I'm a Linux
hater, either way or maybe both. :)

That's an interesting quote that has been turned around to fit many
"causes." Regardless, Linux is not a Right or a Race and when Linux is "came
for," I'll be clapping. Linux is NOT the same as Hitler coming for the Jews
or the Democrats coming for my guns.

I suppose you'll all want to know, WHY I dislike Linux so? Mostly based on
the userbase. The constant scans, abuse and DoS attacks of my, and other
people's, networks by wannabe-linux-hackers. I think it's quite well said at
the following persons website, http://www.spatula.net/proc/linux/index.src I
can take no credit for that site, it's not mine. I do love it so. Yes, I
know that it's not entirely correct anymore. I think there's even a
disclaimer about some of the bugs being fixed and I'm sure some of the links
are now dead.

That's my story and I'm sticking to it,

OF

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG
> [mailto:owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Ceren Ercen
> Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 6:04 PM
> To: oldfart@gtonet
> Cc: freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG
> Subject: RE: Windriver, Slackware and FreeBSD
>
>
>
> I'm sorry you feel like this.
> Have you ever met the Slackware people? They are pretty amazing.
>
> I was lucky enough to be invited into  the Walnut Creek booth with them,
> when WCCDROM was sponsoring the FreeBSD and Slackware presences at
> conventions.
>
> Part of what amazes some people about FreeBSD is that we're able to
> accomplish so much more per person/contributer than Linux, in general. I
> feel fairly safe in saying that Slackware has similar personality.
>
> I, and perhaps others who are constantly under Damocles' sword of layoffs,
> cringe to read this sentence of yours. "Nothing personal", perhaps, but
> fairly cold and cruel, regardless.
>
> ...When they came for the linux people, I did not protest, because I
> didn't like linux...?
>
> (note that I have said absolutely nothing criticizing or even commenting
> on WindRiver's move or its sensibility. )
>
> Ceren Ercen
> FreeBSD's "Strange Attractor"
> cercen@linuxcare.com
>
>
> --------------------------------------------------------
> On Tue, 17 Apr 2001, oldfart@gtonet wrote:
>
> > Nothing personal but I say, "good riddance" to ANYTHING Linux.
> >
> > IMHO,
> >
> > OF
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG
> > > [mailto:owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of David Johnson
> > > Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 5:16 PM
> > > To: freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG
> > > Subject: Windriver, Slackware and FreeBSD
> > >
> > >
> > > Today's announcement of the abandonment of Slackware caught me by
> > > surprise. All Slackware employees laid off. Slackware was *profitable*
> > > for Walnut Creek and BSDi. I think they've lost more in good will than
> > > they will gain. That, plus some blatant GPL baiting, makes Windriver
> > > pretty slimy.
> > >
> > > So, how is FreeBSD going to fare? Will they be canned as
> well? Will they
> > > try to distance themselves from Windriver? I think it would serve
> > > Windriver right if Slackware, FreeBSD and the ftp.freesoftware.com
> > > people upped, left, and started over with their own company.
> > >
> > > David
> > >
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