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Date:      Sun, 1 Mar 1998 18:46:52 -0500 (EST)
From:      Sue Bauer-Lee <sblee@eeyore.taz.tac.com>
To:        hoek@hwcn.org
Cc:        ports@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: bulding new versions
Message-ID:  <199803012346.SAA16353@eeyore.taz.tac.com>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.3.96.980301175315.11643A-100000@james.hwcn.org> from "Tim Vanderhoek" at Mar 1, 98 06:19:48 pm

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> 
> On Sun, 1 Mar 1998, Sue Bauer-Lee wrote:
> 
> > I appreciate all the responses but we're not getting my problems solved.
> 
> I'm not here to solve your problems; I'm merely interested in
> seeing if the documentation has failed its purpose, specifically
> the ports-related docs.  Of course, I hope I can be of help in
> the process.  :-)
> 
> [I seem to have missed much of the conversation.  Please excuse
> me if I trek over ground already covered]
> 
> > 1) I am unable to install autoconf. I shouldn't have to run sysinsyall for
> >    one package. m4 is installed. by what method? 
> 
> Is m4 listed in /var/db/pkg/?  (Or, alternatively, is it reported
> by pkg_info(1)?).  What version?

sblee@she-devil$ pkg_info -a | grep m4
Information for m4-1.4:
GNU's m4.

/var/db/pkg
sblee@she-devil$ ls -ld m4*
drwxr-xr-x  2 root  bin  512 Feb 28 15:31 m4-1.4

> 
> Ultimately, the method you installed it by should make only minor
> differences.  (The options generally are to use a package or to
> build from the sources (as you did)).
> 
> 
> >    make DISTDIR=/tmp install
> >    Tried to install autoconf the same way. It can't find m4. Both were
> 
> Okay, did you build the port from a non-standard directory, ie.
> something other than /usr/ports/.../?  There are some known bugs
> with dependency registration in this case.  Did you see a message
> saying something along the lines of "@pkgdep registration
> incomplete"?  [Incidentally, it's generally perfectly okay to
> build/install ports from something other than /usr/ports/, as I
> often do myself].
> 

see above. downloaded autoconf from mit - same place 'fetch' went to
get it from. out it in /tmp - didn't work. put it in /usr/ports/distfiles -
didn't work.


> 
> >    manually retrieved from the site that fetch expected to be able to get 
> >    them from  - prep.mit.....
> 
> Are the distfiles for both ports in the same directory (I presume
> this to be /tmp/)?

see above.
> 
> 
> > 2) I am unable to build (independent from ports stuff) a newer version of
> >    XFCE. Linux doesn't force me to use rpm, Solaris doesn't force me to use
> >    pkgadd - you get the point.
> 
> FreeBSD doesn't force you to use pkg_add or the ports system.
> 
> The previous problems you mentioned (namely header files being
> installed in alternate directories) may simply be the price that
> must be paid for an otherwise superiour system.  These different
> directories are probably needed to avoid conflicts with other
> ports.  For example, tcl76 and tcl80 each must install their
> headers into directories /usr/local/include/tcl76 and
> /usr/local/include/tcl80 instead of /usr/local/include because
> otherwise it is not possible to run many of the ports on the same
> machine.
> 

Understood. and am aware. :)
> 
> > I would like an easier alternative to adding packages to FreeBsd. It has
> > taken quite some time to set up a productive env compared to previously
> 
> Taking away the problems you have run into, what do you need that
> the ports system does not provide?
> 

not sure how to answer this question.... :)

BTW - thanks for the defence...
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