Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2021 09:47:57 -0600 From: Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com> To: Robert Clausecker <fuz@fuz.su> Cc: "freebsd-arch@freebsd.org" <freebsd-arch@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: FreeBSD 14: Poll armv6 deprecated or removed Message-ID: <CANCZdfqFonOPnTqyshxcNkbDDC2hys4h6OHeT=c_nSncisQgpQ@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <YXrFm2lCEGBkMyLU@fuz.su> References: <CANCZdfr_WsHbbeY6FyKxFdx7dOaFEhk%2BiJLYQ6F4rLOUuf-zRQ@mail.gmail.com> <YXrFm2lCEGBkMyLU@fuz.su>
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--00000000000020547d05cf6ba393 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Thu, Oct 28, 2021 at 9:46 AM Robert Clausecker <fuz@fuz.su> wrote: > Hi, > > I have just bought an armv6 board a few days ago to improve package support > for this platform. Which armv6 board? Warner > But alas apart from maintaining an assembly code base > with specific support for armv6 FreeBSD [1], that's really the only thing > I'm doing with it. > > So not really important for me either way, but if you ask I'm in favour of > keeping armv6 support. > > Yours, > Robert Clausecker > > [1]: https://mecrisp.sourceforge.net > > Am Thu, Oct 28, 2021 at 09:37:03AM -0600 schrieb Warner Losh: > > Greetings, > > > > Given that the number of available and useful armv6 boards has fallen to > > almost zero, the time has come to look hard at armv6. > > > > There's a number of options. > > > > 1. Keep it as is. This will only happen if there's a lot more users than > we > > think (and we think there's nearly zero users of FreeBSD 13 and newer > that > > would want to run FreeBSD 14). > > > > 2. Stop building packages. Given it's small to non-existent user base, it > > makes no sense to provide a package building service for it. > > 2a. We should likely do this anyway for all stable branches since it's a > > net negative in terms of cost/benefit analysis: lots of effort to > produce, > > very little use. > > > > 3. Disconnect it from universe: This will mean it will rot, though. It's > a > > necessary step in removal. > > > > 4. Remove support for armv6 in base entirely. This will orphan any RPiB > and > > RPi0 users out there. However, the RPiB hasn't been sold in a few years, > > and the RPI0's connectivity is severely lacking given no SDIO support. > > > > So, which of these steps do we do before FreeBSD 14 and which before > > FreeBSD 15? > > > > My vote would be to do 1-4 for 14 including 2a. > > > > Warner > > -- > () ascii ribbon campaign - for an 8-bit clean world > /\ - against html email - against proprietary attachments > > --00000000000020547d05cf6ba393--
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