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Date:      Sat, 7 Sep 2024 11:47:12 -0600
From:      Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com>
To:        freebsd-current@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Loader needs to be updated message
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Wait. On the guest?

Then what's the VM system you're using?

Warner

On Sat, Sep 7, 2024 at 11:27=E2=80=AFAM void <void@f-m.fm> wrote:

> On Sat, Sep 07, 2024 at 08:20:07AM -0700, Mark Millard wrote:
>
> >I'm more interested in what is there than just what is not
> >there. May be show something analogous to:
> >
> ># gpart list |  grep -E '(Name|type|efi|media)'
> >1. Name: mmcsd1s1
> >   efimedia: HD(1,MBR,00000000,0x8000,0x3b68000)
> >   rawtype: 12
> >   type: fat32lba
> >1. Name: mmcsd1
> >1. Name: da0p1
> >   efimedia: HD(1,GPT,81f199f2-5eb9-11ec-b507-a0cec8d68fdc,0x28,0x82000)
> >   rawtype: c12a7328-f81f-11d2-ba4b-00a0c93ec93b
> >   label: BPIM3efi
> >   type: efi
> >2. Name: da0p2
> >   efimedia:
> HD(2,GPT,efa6f52d-c8ca-11ec-bb1e-03fc0558c84f,0x82800,0x366000)
> >   rawtype: 516e7cb5-6ecf-11d6-8ff8-00022d09712b
> >   type: freebsd-swap
> >3. Name: da0p3
> >   efimedia:
> HD(3,GPT,71abc138-db5e-11ee-bfe1-e352d1095e3c,0x6861c800,0x732800)
> >   rawtype: 516e7cb5-6ecf-11d6-8ff8-00022d09712b
> >   type: freebsd-swap
> >4. Name: da0p4
> >   efimedia:
> HD(4,GPT,b568945a-5eba-11ec-b507-a0cec8d68fdc,0xa1c800,0x67c00000)
> >   rawtype: 516e7cb6-6ecf-11d6-8ff8-00022d09712b
> >   type: freebsd-ufs
> >1. Name: da0
> >
> >I'll note that on various type of systems, the (effectively)
> >ESP need not be specifically of "type: efi", possibly some
> >fat variant instead also works. (Of course, EFI need not be
> >the only alternative for various type of contexts.)
> >
> >I'll note the /boot/efi is normally just an empty directory
> >that is possibly used as a mount point.
> >
> >In some (somewhat older) configurations /boot/msdos is
> >similarly an empty directory and possibly used as the mount
> >point instead.
> >
> >> After source building to latest stable in the usual way, same error
> message 'loader needs updating'.
>
> This is on the guest
>
> # gpart list |  grep -E '(Name|type|efi|media)'
> 1. Name: vtbd0p1
>     efimedia: HD(1,GPT,b7731537-61da-11ed-9652-00a0981073a7,0x28,0x400)
>     rawtype: 83bd6b9d-7f41-11dc-be0b-001560b84f0f
>     type: freebsd-boot
> 2. Name: vtbd0p2
>     efimedia:
> HD(2,GPT,b77a2687-61da-11ed-9652-00a0981073a7,0x800,0x2000000)
>     rawtype: 516e7cb5-6ecf-11d6-8ff8-00022d09712b
>     type: freebsd-swap
> 3. Name: vtbd0p3
>     efimedia:
> HD(3,GPT,b7836ca4-61da-11ed-9652-00a0981073a7,0x2000800,0xdfff000)
>     rawtype: 516e7cba-6ecf-11d6-8ff8-00022d09712b
>     type: freebsd-zfs
> 1. Name: vtbd0
>
> --
>
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr">Wait. On the guest?<div><br></div><div>Then what&#39;s the=
 VM system you&#39;re using?</div><div><br></div><div>Warner</div></div><br=
><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sat, S=
ep 7, 2024 at 11:27=E2=80=AFAM void &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:void@f-m.fm">void=
@f-m.fm</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"=
margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-lef=
t:1ex">On Sat, Sep 07, 2024 at 08:20:07AM -0700, Mark Millard wrote:<br>
<br>
&gt;I&#39;m more interested in what is there than just what is not<br>
&gt;there. May be show something analogous to:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;# gpart list |=C2=A0 grep -E &#39;(Name|type|efi|media)&#39;<br>
&gt;1. Name: mmcsd1s1<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0efimedia: HD(1,MBR,00000000,0x8000,0x3b68000)<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0rawtype: 12<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0type: fat32lba<br>
&gt;1. Name: mmcsd1<br>
&gt;1. Name: da0p1<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0efimedia: HD(1,GPT,81f199f2-5eb9-11ec-b507-a0cec8d68fdc,0x=
28,0x82000)<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0rawtype: c12a7328-f81f-11d2-ba4b-00a0c93ec93b<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0label: BPIM3efi<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0type: efi<br>
&gt;2. Name: da0p2<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0efimedia: HD(2,GPT,efa6f52d-c8ca-11ec-bb1e-03fc0558c84f,0x=
82800,0x366000)<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0rawtype: 516e7cb5-6ecf-11d6-8ff8-00022d09712b<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0type: freebsd-swap<br>
&gt;3. Name: da0p3<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0efimedia: HD(3,GPT,71abc138-db5e-11ee-bfe1-e352d1095e3c,0x=
6861c800,0x732800)<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0rawtype: 516e7cb5-6ecf-11d6-8ff8-00022d09712b<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0type: freebsd-swap<br>
&gt;4. Name: da0p4<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0efimedia: HD(4,GPT,b568945a-5eba-11ec-b507-a0cec8d68fdc,0x=
a1c800,0x67c00000)<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0rawtype: 516e7cb6-6ecf-11d6-8ff8-00022d09712b<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0type: freebsd-ufs<br>
&gt;1. Name: da0<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;I&#39;ll note that on various type of systems, the (effectively)<br>
&gt;ESP need not be specifically of &quot;type: efi&quot;, possibly some<br=
>
&gt;fat variant instead also works. (Of course, EFI need not be<br>
&gt;the only alternative for various type of contexts.)<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;I&#39;ll note the /boot/efi is normally just an empty directory<br>
&gt;that is possibly used as a mount point.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;In some (somewhat older) configurations /boot/msdos is<br>
&gt;similarly an empty directory and possibly used as the mount<br>
&gt;point instead.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; After source building to latest stable in the usual way, same erro=
r message &#39;loader needs updating&#39;.<br>
<br>
This is on the guest<br>
<br>
# gpart list |=C2=A0 grep -E &#39;(Name|type|efi|media)&#39;<br>
1. Name: vtbd0p1<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 efimedia: HD(1,GPT,b7731537-61da-11ed-9652-00a0981073a7,0x28,=
0x400)<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 rawtype: 83bd6b9d-7f41-11dc-be0b-001560b84f0f<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 type: freebsd-boot<br>
2. Name: vtbd0p2<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 efimedia: HD(2,GPT,b77a2687-61da-11ed-9652-00a0981073a7,0x800=
,0x2000000)<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 rawtype: 516e7cb5-6ecf-11d6-8ff8-00022d09712b<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 type: freebsd-swap<br>
3. Name: vtbd0p3<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 efimedia: HD(3,GPT,b7836ca4-61da-11ed-9652-00a0981073a7,0x200=
0800,0xdfff000)<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 rawtype: 516e7cba-6ecf-11d6-8ff8-00022d09712b<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 type: freebsd-zfs<br>
1. Name: vtbd0<br>
<br>
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<br>
</blockquote></div>

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