Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2016 16:47:16 +0200 From: Mark Martinec <Mark.Martinec+freebsd@ijs.si> To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: date(1) default format changed between 10.3 and 11.0-BETA3 Message-ID: <f51cd89227047ff9249d9ecd68cf1646@mailbox.ijs.si> In-Reply-To: <a260a332-0c30-2338-bdd8-840524e8bfd8@freebsd.org> References: <dc9483611fd37e051fb68532daf10066@mailbox.ijs.si> <3629a441-ee6d-2407-fa13-5ebd8db8d802@freebsd.org> <000c29ee0f3dbd1d433c565023d69e25@mailbox.ijs.si> <a260a332-0c30-2338-bdd8-840524e8bfd8@freebsd.org>
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On 2016-08-05 07:00, Julian Elischer wrote: > On 5/08/2016 5:44 AM, Mark Martinec wrote: >> Should I open a bug report, or has the problem been noted? > it's not clear without reading the standard whether the bug is in the > old or new version. > have you tried other systems? In particular I'd check OSX Did some research, opened a PR against 11.0-BETA3: [Bug 211598] date(1) default format in en_EN locale breaks compatibility with 10.3 and violates POSIX https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=211598 Mark On 2016-08-05 07:00, Julian Elischer wrote: [...] > sh-3.2$ export LC_CTYPE="en_US.UTF-8" > sh-3.2$ export LC_TIME="en_US.UTF-8" > sh-3.2$ export LC_ALL="en_US.UTF-8" > sh-3.2$ export LC_NUMERIC="en_US.UTF-8" > sh-3.2$ date > Fri Aug 5 12:57:47 AWST 2016 > > if it IS a bug then yes, file a report with full reproduction steps. >> On 2016-08-04 04:32, Julian Elischer wrote: >>> On 4/08/2016 7:24 AM, Mark Martinec wrote: >>>> Is it normal/expected/documented that the date(1) command in 11.0 >>>> now produces a timestamp in substantially different format >>>> in an "en_US.UTF-8" locale (long names, commas, 12 vs. 24h hour >>>> time): >>>> >>>> Thursday, August 4, 2016 at 12:50:43 AM CEST >>>> vs: >>>> Thu Aug 4 00:52:29 CEST 2016 >>>> >>> one of those is a bug. the formats are defined in posix I believe. >>> >>>> >>>> Setting LC_TIME does not help: >>>> >>>> $LC_TIME="C" date >>>> Thursday, August 4, 2016 at 01:13:37 AM CEST >>>> >>>> although LC_ALL="C" _does_ help. >>>> >>>> >>>> This is funny too, especially regarding commas: >>>> $ LC_ALL="en_GB.UTF-8" date >>>> Thursday 4 August 2016 at 01:16:45 CEST >>>> $ LC_ALL="en_US.UTF-8" date >>>> Thursday, August 4, 2016 at 01:16:54 AM CEST >>>> >>>> >>>> The date(1) man page states: >>>> The date utility is expected to be compatible with IEEE Std 1003.2 >>>> (“POSIX.2”). >>>> What does POSIX.2 say about date(1) following a locale? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ====== >>>> 11.0-BETA3: >>>> >>>> $ date >>>> Thursday, August 4, 2016 at 12:50:43 AM CEST >>>> >>>> $ uname -a >>>> FreeBSD xxx.ijs.si 11.0-BETA3 FreeBSD 11.0-BETA3 #0 r303469: Fri Jul >>>> 29 02:27:28 UTC 2016 >>>> root@releng2.nyi.freebsd.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 >>>> >>>> $ locale >>>> LANG= >>>> LC_CTYPE="en_US.UTF-8" >>>> LC_COLLATE="en_US.UTF-8" >>>> LC_TIME="en_US.UTF-8" >>>> LC_NUMERIC="en_US.UTF-8" >>>> LC_MONETARY="en_US.UTF-8" >>>> LC_MESSAGES="en_US.UTF-8" >>>> LC_ALL=en_US.UTF-8 >>>> >>>> ====== >>>> 10.3-RELEASE-p6 : >>>> >>>> $ date >>>> Thu Aug 4 00:52:29 CEST 2016 >>>> >>>> $ freebsd-version >>>> 10.3-RELEASE-p6 >>>> >>>> $ uname -a >>>> FreeBSD yyy.ijs.si 10.3-RELEASE-p4 FreeBSD 10.3-RELEASE-p4 #0: Sat >>>> May 28 12:23:44 UTC 2016 >>>> root@amd64-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC >>>> amd64 >>>> >>>> $ locale >>>> LANG= >>>> LC_CTYPE="en_US.UTF-8" >>>> LC_COLLATE="en_US.UTF-8" >>>> LC_TIME="en_US.UTF-8" >>>> LC_NUMERIC="en_US.UTF-8" >>>> LC_MONETARY="en_US.UTF-8" >>>> LC_MESSAGES="en_US.UTF-8" >>>> LC_ALL=en_US.UTF-8 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Mark
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