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Date:      Tue, 2 Jun 2009 19:16:04 +0000
From:      Rick N <solarux@hotmail.com>
To:        <freebsd-chat@freebsd.org>
Subject:   RE: What is this forum for?
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 It kind of reminds me of George Carlin - "Its Bad For Ya"  (on any youyube=
)

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:)


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> Date: Sun=2C 31 May 2009 20:44:46 +0200
> From: wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl
> To: itetcu@FreeBSD.org
> CC: sonicy@otenet.gr=3B Ggatten@waddell.com=3B chuckr@telenix.org=3B free=
bsd-chat@FreeBSD.org
> Subject: Re: What is this forum for?
>=20
> >>
> >> Where are this rules defined?
> >
> > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/mailing-list-faq/et=
iquette.html
> > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/freebsd-questions/
>=20
> first - good that's proper definition of hacker explained.
>=20
> ---
> FreeBSD-questions is a mailing list maintained by the FreeBSD project to=
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> help people who have questions about the normal use of FreeBSD.
> ---
>=20
> while i still don't agree that many of things done is "normal use of=20
> freebsd" but that's my point of view.
>=20
> So:
>=20
> - it's fine here to ask about mysql5 or mysql6 as it is normal view of=20
> FreeBSD.
> - it's not fine here to ask about sponsoring as it's not normal (and any)=
=20
> use of FreeBSD.
> - it's fine both to ask here about how to switch from windows=2C and=20
> presenting my point of view about this idea.
>=20
> I think we finally agree=2C So i will subscribe to FreeBSD-hackers=2C but=
 with=20
> some fear. i don't classify myself as a FreeBSD-hacker. I understand C an=
d=20
> can code=2C but everytime i like to do even smallest modification in kern=
el=20
> it's quite time consuming=2C as it's really very complex amount of code.
>=20
> >
> >> best with moderation BUT EVEN WITHOUT=2C but with clearly defined rule=
s
> >> on webpage it could be efficient.
> >
> > Let's make a test case: please compare your emails with the rules and
> > suggestions in above two articles.
>=20
> Already did. And until we started to argue about moderation=2C it's=20
> mostly compliant. Then - it was not. For mostly two reasons.
>=20
> First - because i was attacked when presenting my opinion=2C just because=
 it=20
> was not "mainstream" (but not aggressive).
> Second - after it continued i wanted You to start moderation.
>=20
> >
> > We spend a few hours per day *working* on improving FreeBSD=2C doing al=
so
> > moderating is just to much.
>=20
> First - thank you very much for this. I'm a happy user of YOUR WORK=2C an=
d i=20
> wish you will keep this as good as now in future=2C as there is no other=
=20
> unix that i don't consider crap today.
>=20
> i think i could find more people if you decide to start moderation.
> Whatever this people personal preferences are - won't matter as they woul=
d=20
> be just executors of rules defined by YOU.
>=20
> Just please contact me and tell beforehand=2C i will start asking people=
=20
> privately=2C having timezones in mind.
>=20
> So you will not need any extra work.
>=20
> > Besides=2C we expect people to behave intelligently and politely. Life
> > keeps contradicting us it seems :-[
>=20
> Agreed.
>=20
> >>>> I already sent a mail to one developer but got no response. Maybe
> >>>> he is just busy or absent=2C anyway what's the best address for this=
.
> >
> > Please contact donations@
>=20
> OK.
> >> OK so fuck off Boris=2C but we were talking some time ago about dumpin=
g
> >> potential sponsors =3B)
> >
> > Watch you language please.
>=20
> Such language is used on special cases like this. So please replace this=
=20
> words with other with the same meaning :)
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