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Date:      Tue, 2 May 2023 16:07:58 -0400
From:      Paul Procacci <pprocacci@gmail.com>
To:        Doug Denault <doug@safeport.com>
Cc:        questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: ntpd error on a bridged network
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On Tue, May 2, 2023 at 4:01=E2=80=AFPM Doug Denault <doug@safeport.com> wro=
te:

> On Tue, 2 May 2023, Paul Procacci wrote:
>
> > On Tue, May 2, 2023 at 1:02?PM Doug Denault <doug@safeport.com> wrote:
> >       We replaced an old apple router with a Linksys Velop router. The
> apple
> >       router was behind a Verizon router and we used DHCP from Verizon
> on the
> >       apple device. To duplicate the setup we configured the Linksys in
> bridge
> >       mode.
> >
> >       ntpd starts with the error:
> >           ntpd: error resolving pool 0.freebsd.pool.ntp.org: Name does
> not resolve (8)
> >
> >       however:
> >
> >           host -t a 0.freebsd.pool.ntp.org
> >           0.freebsd.pool.ntp.org has address 174.53.169.69
> >           0.freebsd.pool.ntp.org has address 192.241.155.186
> >           0.freebsd.pool.ntp.org has address 38.229.53.9
> >           0.freebsd.pool.ntp.org has address 38.229.57.9
> >
> >           ping -c 2 0.freebsd.pool.ntp.org
> >           PING 0.freebsd.pool.ntp.org (94.237.120.208): 56 data bytes
> >           64 bytes from 94.237.120.208: icmp_seq=3D0 ttl=3D53 time=3D78=
.773 ms
> >           64 bytes from 94.237.120.208: icmp_seq=3D1 ttl=3D53 time=3D79=
.012 ms
> >
> >           /etc/resolv.conf
> >           # Generated by resolvconf
> >           search boltsys.com
> >           nameserver 192.168.2.1
> >
> >       Other than ntpd I see no DNS or connectivity issues. So far the
> time has
> >       been holding at 2 seconds difference
> >       from the servers not on the office LAN.
> >
> >
> > When you restart ntpd after the system has fully booted, does the same
> > error occur?
>
> It is the same from power-off, reboot, and starting and stopping dhclient=
.
> I have also used google nameservers as well as 192.168.2.1 (verizon) all
> works the same.
>
> > Just trying to isolate if it's a problem with ntpd specifically or
> > perhaps ntpd starting before the network becomes available.
> >
> > What version of FreeBSD are you running?   12.4
>
>
>
> _____
> Douglas Denault
> http://www.safeport.com
> doug@safeport.com
> Voice: 301-217-9220
>    Fax: 301-217-9277


Douglas,

I perhaps wasn't clear.  Sorry about that.
What happens when you simply restart ntpd?

By just restarting ntpd we can quickly isolate if the problem is with ntpd.

~Paul
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_qu=
ote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, May 2, 2023 at 4:01=E2=
=80=AFPM Doug Denault &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:doug@safeport.com">doug@safepor=
t.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"ma=
rgin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:=
1ex">On Tue, 2 May 2023, Paul Procacci wrote:<br>
<br>
&gt; On Tue, May 2, 2023 at 1:02?PM Doug Denault &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:doug=
@safeport.com" target=3D"_blank">doug@safeport.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0We replaced an old apple router with a Links=
ys Velop router. The apple<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0router was behind a Verizon router and we us=
ed DHCP from Verizon on the<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0apple device. To duplicate the setup we conf=
igured the Linksys in bridge<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0mode.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0ntpd starts with the error:<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0 ntpd: error resolving pool <a =
href=3D"http://0.freebsd.pool.ntp.org" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank"=
>0.freebsd.pool.ntp.org</a>: Name does not resolve (8)<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0however:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0 host -t a <a href=3D"http://0.=
freebsd.pool.ntp.org" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">0.freebsd.pool.n=
tp.org</a><br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0 <a href=3D"http://0.freebsd.po=
ol.ntp.org" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">0.freebsd.pool.ntp.org</a>=
 has address 174.53.169.69<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0 <a href=3D"http://0.freebsd.po=
ol.ntp.org" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">0.freebsd.pool.ntp.org</a>=
 has address 192.241.155.186<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0 <a href=3D"http://0.freebsd.po=
ol.ntp.org" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">0.freebsd.pool.ntp.org</a>=
 has address 38.229.53.9<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0 <a href=3D"http://0.freebsd.po=
ol.ntp.org" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">0.freebsd.pool.ntp.org</a>=
 has address 38.229.57.9<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0 ping -c 2 <a href=3D"http://0.=
freebsd.pool.ntp.org" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">0.freebsd.pool.n=
tp.org</a><br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0 PING <a href=3D"http://0.freeb=
sd.pool.ntp.org" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">0.freebsd.pool.ntp.or=
g</a> (94.237.120.208): 56 data bytes<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0 64 bytes from <a href=3D"http:=
//94.237.120.208" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">94.237.120.208</a>: =
icmp_seq=3D0 ttl=3D53 time=3D78.773 ms<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0 64 bytes from <a href=3D"http:=
//94.237.120.208" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">94.237.120.208</a>: =
icmp_seq=3D1 ttl=3D53 time=3D79.012 ms<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0 /etc/resolv.conf<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0 # Generated by resolvconf<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0 search <a href=3D"http://bolts=
ys.com" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">boltsys.com</a><br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0 nameserver 192.168.2.1<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Other than ntpd I see no DNS or connectivity=
 issues. So far the time has<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0been holding at 2 seconds difference<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0from the servers not on the office LAN.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; When you restart ntpd after the system has fully booted, does the same=
 <br>
&gt; error occur?<br>
<br>
It is the same from power-off, reboot, and starting and stopping dhclient. =
<br>
I have also used google nameservers as well as 192.168.2.1 (verizon) all <b=
r>
works the same.<br>
<br>
&gt; Just trying to isolate if it&#39;s a problem with ntpd specifically or=
 <br>
&gt; perhaps ntpd starting before the network becomes available.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; What version of FreeBSD are you running?=C2=A0 =C2=A012.4<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
_____<br>
Douglas Denault<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.safeport.com" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">ht=
tp://www.safeport.com</a><br>
<a href=3D"mailto:doug@safeport.com" target=3D"_blank">doug@safeport.com</a=
><br>
Voice: 301-217-9220<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0Fax: 301-217-9277</blockquote></div><br clear=3D"all"></div><d=
iv>Douglas,</div><div><br></div><div>I perhaps wasn&#39;t clear.=C2=A0 Sorr=
y about that.<br>What happens when you simply restart ntpd?</div><div><br><=
/div><div>By just restarting ntpd we can quickly isolate if the problem is =
with ntpd.<br><br></div><div>~Paul<br></div><div><div><span class=3D"gmail_=
signature_prefix">-- </span><br><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_signature">=
__________________<br><br>:(){ :|:&amp; };:</div></div></div></div>

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