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Date:      Fri, 1 Jul 2016 16:39:17 +0200
From:      Julien Cigar <julien@perdition.city>
To:        InterNetX - Juergen Gotteswinter <jg@internetx.com>
Cc:        Joe Love <joe@getsomewhere.net>, freebsd-fs@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: HAST + ZFS + NFS + CARP
Message-ID:  <20160701143917.GB41276@mordor.lan>
In-Reply-To: <bbaf14e2-4ec6-545c-ba67-a1084100b05c@internetx.com>
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On Fri, Jul 01, 2016 at 03:44:36PM +0200, InterNetX - Juergen Gotteswinter =
wrote:
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> Am 01.07.2016 um 15:18 schrieb Joe Love:
> >=20
> >> On Jul 1, 2016, at 6:09 AM, InterNetX - Juergen Gotteswinter <jg@inter=
netx.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Am 01.07.2016 um 12:57 schrieb Julien Cigar:
> >>> On Fri, Jul 01, 2016 at 12:18:39PM +0200, InterNetX - Juergen Gottesw=
inter wrote:
> >>>
> >>> of course I'll test everything properly :) I don't have the hardware =
yet
> >>> so ATM I'm just looking for all the possible "candidates", and I'm=20
> >>> aware that a redundant storage is not that easy to implement ...
> >>>
> >>> but what solutions do we have? It's either CARP + ZFS + (HAST|iSCSI),=
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> >>> either zfs send|ssh zfs receive as you suggest (but it's
> >>> not realtime), either a distributed FS (which I avoid like the plague=
=2E.)
> >>
> >> zfs send/receive can be nearly realtime.
> >>
> >> external jbods with cross cabled sas + commercial cluster solution like
> >> rsf-1. anything else is a fragile construction which begs for desaster.
> >=20
> > This sounds similar to the CTL-HA code that went in last year, for whic=
h I haven=E2=80=99t seen any sort of how-to.  The RSF-1 stuff sounds like i=
t has more scaling options, though.  Which it probably should, given its co=
mmercial operation.
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> rsf is what pacemaker / heartbeat tries to be, judge me for linking
> whitepapers but in this case its not such evil marketing blah
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> http://www.high-availability.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/RSF-1-HA-PLUG=
IN-ZFS-STORAGE-CLUSTER.pdf
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> @ Julien
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> seems like you take availability really serious, so i guess you also got
> plans how to accomplish network problems like dead switches, flaky
> cables and so on.
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> like using multiple network cards in the boxes, cross cabling between
> the hosts (rs232 and ethernet of course, using proved reliable network
> switches in a stacked configuration for example cisco 3750 stacked). not
> to forget redundant power feeds to redundant power supplies.

the only thing that is not redundant (yet?) is our switch, an HP Pro=20
Curve 2530-24G) .. it's the next step :)

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> if not, i whould start again from scratch.
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> >=20
> > -Joe
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