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Date:      Sun, 02 Oct 2022 23:32:56 +1100
From:      Ian Smith <smithi@nimnet.asn.au>
To:        Graham Perrin <grahamperrin@freebsd.org>
Cc:        questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: FreeBSD installers: -dvd1 usability (was: concerns about install freebsd)
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On 2 October 2022 6:07:48 am AEDT, Graham Perrin <grahamperrin@freebsd=2Eor=
g> wrote:
 > On 30/09/2022 17:55, Ian Smith wrote:
 > > On 30 September 2022 5:25:39 pm AEST, David
 > Christensen<dpchrist@holgerdanske=2Ecom>  wrote:
 > >
 > > > =E2=80=A6 Having a -dvd1 ISO on a USB flash drive could be useful w=
hen=20
 > > > installing without an Internet connection=2E =E2=80=A6
 > >
 > > It should be=2E  It was broken on 12=2E3R and presumably before, due =
to
 > a bad symlink on the dvd1=2Eiso, and needing so far three patches to
 > bsdconfig, if hoping to use that=2E
 > >
 > > Once fixed, it's a useful dialog(1) based interface to the included
 > pkg repo, reminiscent of sysinstall in its heyday, if you like KDE 5
 > or Gnome on top of your Xorg=2E
 > >
 > > For much too long a story on getting that working, see
 > >
 > https://forums=2Efreebsd=2Eorg/threads/installing-freebsd-12-3-from-dvd=
1-usb-without-network=2E84838/
 > >
 > > I've yet to find out if it's been fixed on 13, and I'm still
 > _slightly_ hopeful of getting some committer help in fixing it for
 > 12=2E4, which enters code slush in a week=2E
 >=20
 > FreeBSD bugs:
 >=20
 > 195705 =E2=80=93 Installer issues / bsdconfig
 > <https://bugs=2Efreebsd=2Eorg/bugzilla/show_bug=2Ecgi?id=3D195705>;
 >=20
 > 201485 =E2=80=93 bsdconfig no pkg database found
 > <https://bugs=2Efreebsd=2Eorg/bugzilla/show_bug=2Ecgi?id=3D201485>;
 >=20
 > 266743 =E2=80=93 Potentially misleading information about -dvd1=2Eiso i=
n
 > release=20
 > documentation and the FreeBSD Handbook
 > <https://bugs=2Efreebsd=2Eorg/bugzilla/show_bug=2Ecgi?id=3D266743>;

Thanks Graham, much appreciated=2E

I've scanned those and reset my long-lost Bugzilla password and will try g=
etting into that properly in the next day or so=2E

First off I'll send you some file listings off-list from the 11=2E3-R and =
12=2E3-R dvd1/packages, seeking a 13=2E1-R list in return, so I can be sure=
 what if anything has been changed, before wading in over my head  <&^}=3D

cheers, Ian
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  <body><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On 2 October 2022 6:07:48 am AEDT, Grah=
am Perrin &lt;grahamperrin@freebsd=2Eorg&gt; wrote:<blockquote class=3D"gma=
il_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0=2E8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(=
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    <div class=3D"moz-cite-prefix">On 30/09/2022 17:55, Ian Smith wrote:<b=
r>
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6F89@nimnet=2Easn=2Eau">
      <pre class=3D"moz-quote-pre" wrap=3D"">On 30 September 2022 5:25:39 =
pm AEST, David Christensen <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href=3D"mailt=
o:dpchrist@holgerdanske=2Ecom">&lt;dpchrist@holgerdanske=2Ecom&gt;</a> wrot=
e:

&gt; =E2=80=A6 Having a -dvd1 ISO on a USB flash drive could be useful whe=
n=20
&gt; installing without an Internet connection=2E =E2=80=A6

It should be=2E  It was broken on 12=2E3R and presumably before, due to a =
bad symlink on the dvd1=2Eiso, and needing so far three patches to bsdconfi=
g, if hoping to use that=2E

Once fixed, it's a useful dialog(1) based interface to the included pkg re=
po, reminiscent of sysinstall in its heyday, if you like KDE 5 or Gnome on =
top of your Xorg=2E

For much too long a story on getting that working, see
<a class=3D"moz-txt-link-freetext" href=3D"https://forums=2Efreebsd=2Eorg/=
threads/installing-freebsd-12-3-from-dvd1-usb-without-network=2E84838/">htt=
ps://forums=2Efreebsd=2Eorg/threads/installing-freebsd-12-3-from-dvd1-usb-w=
ithout-network=2E84838/</a>

I've yet to find out if it's been fixed on 13, and I'm still _slightly_ ho=
peful of getting some committer help in fixing it for 12=2E4, which enters =
code slush in a week=2E</pre>
    </blockquote>
    <p>FreeBSD bugs: <br>
    </p>
    <p>195705 =E2=80=93 Installer issues / bsdconfig<br>
      <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href=3D"https://bugs=2Efreebsd=2E=
org/bugzilla/show_bug=2Ecgi?id=3D195705">&lt;https://bugs=2Efreebsd=2Eorg/b=
ugzilla/show_bug=2Ecgi?id=3D195705&gt;</a></p>
    <p>201485 =E2=80=93 bsdconfig no pkg database found<br>
      <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href=3D"https://bugs=2Efreebsd=2E=
org/bugzilla/show_bug=2Ecgi?id=3D201485">&lt;https://bugs=2Efreebsd=2Eorg/b=
ugzilla/show_bug=2Ecgi?id=3D201485&gt;</a></p>
    <p>266743 =E2=80=93 Potentially misleading information about -dvd1=2Ei=
so in
      release documentation and the FreeBSD Handbook<br>
      <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href=3D"https://bugs=2Efreebsd=2E=
org/bugzilla/show_bug=2Ecgi?id=3D266743">&lt;https://bugs=2Efreebsd=2Eorg/b=
ugzilla/show_bug=2Ecgi?id=3D266743&gt;</a><br>
    </p>
 =20
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</blockquote></div><br clear=3D"all">Thanks Graham, much appreciated=2E<br=
><br>I've scanned those and reset my long-lost Bugzilla password and will t=
ry getting into that properly in the next day or so=2E<br><br>First off I'l=
l send you some file listings off-list from the 11=2E3-R and 12=2E3-R dvd1/=
packages, seeking a 13=2E1-R list in return, so I can be sure what if anyth=
ing has been changed, before wading in over my head  &lt;&amp;^}=3D<br><br>=
cheers, Ian</body></html>
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