Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2005 21:18:30 -0500 From: John DeStefano <john.destefano@gmail.com> To: "Andrew P." <infofarmer@gmail.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: portupgrade stale dependencies Message-ID: <f2160e0d0510301818rdbc4f20t7f1704a93e8e8d29@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <cb5206420510301800r29ab0681w56fc8e9ef24f72f5@mail.gmail.com> References: <f2160e0d0510151746n28cdbb25s2150337c0c6f7cfc@mail.gmail.com> <6FB767AE-D4D7-4C38-90C0-726D48AF5654@secure-computing.net> <f2160e0d0510281731u268c1f75y82ec93a0ed08ad40@mail.gmail.com> <200510281922.16495.ringworm01@gmail.com> <f2160e0d0510281951s541d3d9ft808d36b023fa9661@mail.gmail.com> <cb5206420510290423v4a107a5dl574ba5387a3424f2@mail.gmail.com> <f2160e0d0510301750p160696a8r3b20d07ac903a340@mail.gmail.com> <cb5206420510301800r29ab0681w56fc8e9ef24f72f5@mail.gmail.com>
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On 10/30/05, Andrew P. <infofarmer@gmail.com> wrote: > On 10/31/05, John DeStefano <john.destefano@gmail.com> wrote: > > On 10/29/05, Andrew P. <infofarmer@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On 10/29/05, John DeStefano <john.destefano@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > Needless to say, this process wasn't much fun. What can I do to ke= ep > > > > this from happening again? What can/can't I safely include in cron= to > > > > automate database and index maintenance? > > > > > > > > > > cvsup or portsnap, then portsdb -uUF. Work under > > > any circumstances, leave you with updated ports > > > tree and indexes. > > > > If I were to continue to use portsnap, which arguments can I safely > > add to /etc/crontab? I know "portsnap cron" should be safe, but if I > > want to completely automate the update process (not for installing > > packages, but for keeping the ports tree, database, and indexes > > current), should I also add an entry for "portsnap update" and > > "portsdb -uUF"? > > > > > > > > You can also try portupgrade -aF (prefetches > > > needed files to speed up manual upgrade at a later > > > time) and portsclean -DP (removes sources and > > > packages which become outdated due to ports > > > tree updates). > > > > > > > Would you also recommend cron entries for these two commands? > > > > I used to use a cron job to run cvsup, and I'd like to implement a > > better, more complete automated solution, so I don't tangle up my > > system's packages and dependencies again. > > > > I think the best way is to create a shell script, like this: > > #!/bin/sh > /usr/local/sbin/portsnap cron && \ > /usr/local/sbin/portsnap update && \ > /usr/local/sbin/portsdb -uUF && \ > /usr/local/sbin/portupgrade -aF && \ > /usr/local/sbin/portsclean -DP > Perfect... I had everything but the && conditionals... thanks! > > and run it at an hour, when you're most unlikely to > perform any kind of port upgrading. As portsnap > manpage warns, if both portsnap (in the process > of update) and portupgrade ever happen to access > the same directory at once, it might ruin your > ports tree. You'll have to do "portsnap extract" > after that. You can leave out portsclean and run > it manually, because it can create some load > (which is not desirable on a production server). > > I run this script daily at 8-9 in the morning (I usually > start messing with servers after 11). It never failed, > and it always keeps everything up-to-date. > My server is not "production", as it's just my personal web/database server; I'm the only one who would be running any updates. So I should be okay with this procedure, and I'll manually update any ports of note. Just one problem I saw thus far, with portsclean I think... Cleaning out /usr/ports/packages... cd: can't cd to /usr/ports/packages/All find: /usr/ports/packages: No such file or directory Would this be related to one of the "advanced topics" you mentioned earlier about pkgtools.conf? ;) Do I need to define some variables?=20 I would guess the directory error to have been caused by a combination of the variables PORTSDIR (which looks okay at /usr/ports) and PACKAGES (which seems to need a /packages dir beneath PORTSDIR <?>). Thanks, ~John
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