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Date:      Wed, 27 Nov 2024 01:34:56 +0100
From:      Mario Marietto <marietto2008@gmail.com>
To:        Robert Clark <robert_clark@mac.com>
Cc:        orbit <ordinarybit@proton.me>, freebsd-arm <freebsd-arm@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: Radxa Zero and FreeBSD : happy marriage ?
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The Waveshare SIM7600G-H 4G HAT is bigger than the raspberry pi zero. It's
not good to be used in a case that should look like a mobile phone. I'm
starting with this case :

https://www.melopero.com/shop/raspberry-pi/case-ufficiale-per-raspberry-pi-=
zero-w/

So I will look for a 4G HAT that has the size of that case. Or,I could ask
a company to create a custom case,but the risk is to build a device that's
not a phone...and that's not a tablet.

In addition to that,I need to find one USB display of about 4 inches that
fits inside that case and that does not require a driver,since FreeBSD
doesn't have one.

On Wed, Nov 27, 2024 at 12:40=E2=80=AFAM Robert Clark <robert_clark@mac.com=
> wrote:

> The Waveshare SIM7600G-H 4G HAT.
>
> The IoT SIM provider I've used before now sells a '12 month' flat rate
> SIM. I had tinkered with a prior model SIM that allowed 64kbit/sec
> continuous bandwidth, and the newer model is rated for 750kbit/sec instea=
d.
>
> The project idea is to see if this data rate would allow for a general
> communications device, allowing that phone service and SMS are excluded
> from the data plan.
>
> [RC]
>
> On Nov 26, 2024, at 1:42 PM, Mario Marietto <marietto2008@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
> ---> I'm personally working on a phone-adjacent project...
>
> Hello Robert,
>
> We are working on the same project.
>
> ---> with a Waveshare board...
>
> Which one ?
>
> ---> and likely a Pi Zero 2 W.
>
> After having looked for a better SOC we have ended using the Pi Zero 2W.
> For a start it's ok. Even though there aren't so many alternatives at the
> moment. Are you a developer ? Tell me something more about your technical
> choices. Which display do you want to use ?
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 26, 2024 at 7:28=E2=80=AFPM Robert Clark <robert_clark@mac.co=
m> wrote:
>
>> Hi Mario,
>>
>> I'm personally working on a phone-adjacent project with a Waveshare boar=
d
>> and likely a Pi Zero 2 W.
>>
>> Have you looked at the Waveshare boards as an easy way to get a
>> prototyping system pulled together?
>>
>> [RC]
>>
>> On Nov 25, 2024, at 9:12 AM, orbit <ordinarybit@proton.me> wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Monday, November 25th, 2024 at 7:02 PM, Mario Marietto <
>> marietto2008@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hello.
>> I'm planning to buy this soc :
>>
>> *Radxa Zero*
>>
>>    - *Specifications*:
>>    - *CPU*: Amlogic S905Y2 quad-core Cortex-A53
>>       - *RAM*: Up to 4GB LPDDR4 (4GB option available)
>>       - *Ports*:
>>       - Mini HDMI
>>          - Micro USB OTG
>>          - Micro USB power
>>          - *Wireless*: Wi-Fi 802.11 b/g/n/ac, Bluetooth 5.0
>>       -
>>
>> because I'm trying to assemble a mobile phone powered by FreeBSD. This
>> soc seems to be the only option available given its performances and
>> slenderness.
>> But what I want to know is how compatible it is with FreeBSD. Are there
>> some huge unfixed bugs ? Problems with HDMI or whatever ? thanks.
>>
>> --
>> Mario.
>>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I stumbled with Orange Pi SoCs for IoT / mobile phones though FreeBSD
>> does not support it  but only Linux and Android.
>>
>>
>> http://www.orangepi.org/html/hardWare/computerAndMicrocontrollers/detail=
s/Orange-Pi-2G-IoT.html
>>
>> http://www.orangepi.org/html/hardWare/otherAccessories/details/orange-pi=
-Touch-Screen-For-2G-IOT.html
>>
>> http://www.orangepi.org/html/hardWare/computerAndMicrocontrollers/detail=
s/Orange-Pi-3G-IoT-A.html
>>
>> http://www.orangepi.org/html/hardWare/computerAndMicrocontrollers/detail=
s/Orange-Pi-3G-IoT-B.html
>>
>> http://www.orangepi.org/html/hardWare/computerAndMicrocontrollers/detail=
s/Orange-Pi-4G-IoT.html
>>
>> orbit
>>
>>
>>
>
> --
> Mario.
>
>
>

--=20
Mario.

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>The Waveshare SIM7600G-H 4G HAT is bigger than the ra=
spberry pi zero. It&#39;s not good to be used in a case that should look li=
ke a mobile phone. I&#39;m starting with this case :</div><div><br></div><d=
iv><a href=3D"https://www.melopero.com/shop/raspberry-pi/case-ufficiale-per=
-raspberry-pi-zero-w/">https://www.melopero.com/shop/raspberry-pi/case-uffi=
ciale-per-raspberry-pi-zero-w/</a></div><div><br></div><div>So I will look =
for a 4G HAT that has the size of that case. Or,I could ask a company to cr=
eate a custom case,but the risk is to build a device that&#39;s not a phone=
...and that&#39;s not a tablet. <br></div><div><br></div><div>In addition t=
o that,I need to find one USB display of about 4 inches that fits inside th=
at case and that does not require a driver,since FreeBSD doesn&#39;t have o=
ne.<br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D=
"gmail_attr">On Wed, Nov 27, 2024 at 12:40=E2=80=AFAM Robert Clark &lt;<a h=
ref=3D"mailto:robert_clark@mac.com" target=3D"_blank">robert_clark@mac.com<=
/a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0=
px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><=
div><div><div>The Waveshare SIM7600G-H 4G HAT.<br></div><div><br></div><div=
>The IoT SIM provider I&#39;ve used before now sells a &#39;12 month&#39; f=
lat rate SIM. I had tinkered with a prior model SIM that allowed 64kbit/sec=
 continuous bandwidth, and the newer model is rated for 750kbit/sec instead=
.<br></div><div><br></div><div>The project idea is to see if this data rate=
 would allow for a general communications device, allowing that phone servi=
ce and SMS are excluded from the data plan.<br></div><div><br></div><div>[R=
C]<br></div><div><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div>On Nov 26, 2024, =
at 1:42 PM, Mario Marietto &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:marietto2008@gmail.com" ta=
rget=3D"_blank">marietto2008@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><div><br></d=
iv><div><br></div><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>---&gt; I&#39;m personally wor=
king on a phone-adjacent project... <br></div><div><br></div><div>Hello Rob=
ert,<br></div><div><br></div><div>We are working on the same project.<br></=
div><div>=C2=A0<br></div><div>---&gt; with a Waveshare board... <br></div><=
div><br></div><div>Which one ?<br></div><div><br></div><div>---&gt; and lik=
ely a Pi Zero 2 W.<br></div><div><div><br></div><div>After having looked fo=
r a better SOC we have ended using the Pi=20
Zero 2W. For a start it&#39;s ok. Even though there aren&#39;t so many=20
alternatives at the moment. Are you a developer ? Tell me something more ab=
out your technical choices. Which display do you want to use ? <br></div><d=
iv><div><br></div></div></div></div><div><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_quot=
e"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, Nov 26, 2024 at 7:28=E2=80=
=AFPM Robert Clark &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:robert_clark@mac.com" target=3D"_b=
lank">robert_clark@mac.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gma=
il_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,2=
04,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div><div>Hi Mario,<br></div><div><br></div>=
<div>I&#39;m personally working on a phone-adjacent project with a Waveshar=
e board and likely a Pi Zero 2 W.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Have you loo=
ked at the Waveshare boards as an easy way to get a prototyping system pull=
ed together?<br></div><div><br></div><div>[RC]<br></div><div><br></div><blo=
ckquote type=3D"cite"><div>On Nov 25, 2024, at 9:12 AM, orbit &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:ordinarybit@proton.me" target=3D"_blank">ordinarybit@proton.me</=
a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><div style=3D"fon=
t-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px"><span><span><span style=3D"font-f=
amily:system-ui,sans-serif"><span><span style=3D"font-size:0.875rem">On Mon=
day, November 25th, 2024 at 7:02 PM, Mario Marietto &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:m=
arietto2008@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">marietto2008@gmail.com</a>&gt; wro=
te:</span></span></span></span></span><br></div><div><blockquote type=3D"ci=
te"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><h3>Hello.<br></h3><h3>I&#39;m planning to buy th=
is soc :<br></h3><h3><b></b><br></h3><h3><b>Radxa Zero</b><br></h3><ul><li>=
<div><b>Specifications</b>:<br></div><ul><li><b>CPU</b>: Amlogic S905Y2 qua=
d-core Cortex-A53<br></li><li><b>RAM</b>: Up to 4GB LPDDR4 (4GB option avai=
lable)<br></li><li><div><b>Ports</b>:<br></div><ul><li>Mini HDMI<br></li><l=
i>Micro USB OTG<br></li><li>Micro USB power<br></li></ul></li><li><b>Wirele=
ss</b>: Wi-Fi 802.11 b/g/n/ac, Bluetooth 5.0<br></li><li><br></li></ul></li=
></ul></div><div>because I&#39;m trying to assemble a mobile phone powered =
by FreeBSD. This soc seems to be the only option available given its perfor=
mances and slenderness.<br></div><div>But what I want to know is how compat=
ible it is with FreeBSD. Are there some huge unfixed bugs ? Problems with H=
DMI or whatever ? thanks.<br></div><div><br></div><div><div><span class=3D"=
gmail_signature_prefix">-- </span><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_signature" =
dir=3D"ltr">Mario.<br></div></div></div></blockquote></div><div style=3D"fo=
nt-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color=
:rgb(255,255,255)"><br></div><div style=3D"font-family:Arial,sans-serif;fon=
t-size:14px;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><div><span>=
Hi,</span><br></div><div><br></div><div>I stumbled with Orange Pi SoCs for =
IoT / mobile phones though FreeBSD does not support it=C2=A0 but only Linux=
 and Android.<br></div><div><br></div><div><span><a rel=3D"noopener norefer=
rer" href=3D"http://www.orangepi.org/html/hardWare/computerAndMicrocontroll=
ers/details/Orange-Pi-2G-IoT.html" style=3D"color:blue" target=3D"_blank">h=
ttp://www.orangepi.org/html/hardWare/computerAndMicrocontrollers/details/Or=
ange-Pi-2G-IoT.html</a></span><br></div><div><span><a rel=3D"noopener noref=
errer" href=3D"http://www.orangepi.org/html/hardWare/otherAccessories/detai=
ls/orange-pi-Touch-Screen-For-2G-IOT.html" style=3D"color:blue" target=3D"_=
blank">http://www.orangepi.org/html/hardWare/otherAccessories/details/orang=
e-pi-Touch-Screen-For-2G-IOT.html</a></span><br></div><div><span><a rel=3D"=
noopener noreferrer" href=3D"http://www.orangepi.org/html/hardWare/computer=
AndMicrocontrollers/details/Orange-Pi-3G-IoT-A.html" style=3D"color:blue" t=
arget=3D"_blank">http://www.orangepi.org/html/hardWare/computerAndMicrocont=
rollers/details/Orange-Pi-3G-IoT-A.html</a></span><br></div><div><span><a r=
el=3D"noopener noreferrer" href=3D"http://www.orangepi.org/html/hardWare/co=
mputerAndMicrocontrollers/details/Orange-Pi-3G-IoT-B.html" style=3D"color:b=
lue" target=3D"_blank">http://www.orangepi.org/html/hardWare/computerAndMic=
rocontrollers/details/Orange-Pi-3G-IoT-B.html</a></span><br></div><div><spa=
n><a rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" href=3D"http://www.orangepi.org/html/hardW=
are/computerAndMicrocontrollers/details/Orange-Pi-4G-IoT.html" target=3D"_b=
lank">http://www.orangepi.org/html/hardWare/computerAndMicrocontrollers/det=
ails/Orange-Pi-4G-IoT.html</a></span><br></div><div><br></div><div>orbit<br=
></div></div><div><br></div></div></blockquote></div><div><br></div></div><=
/blockquote></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><span class=3D"gmail_s=
ignature_prefix">-- </span><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_signat=
ure">Mario.<br></div></div></blockquote></div><div><br></div></div></blockq=
uote></div><div><br clear=3D"all"></div><br><span class=3D"gmail_signature_=
prefix">-- </span><br><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_signature">Mario.<br>=
</div>

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