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Date:      Wed, 11 Oct 2023 22:45:48 -0600
From:      Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com>
To:        void <void@f-m.fm>
Cc:        freebsd-arm <freebsd-arm@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: unable to boot latest 14-stable
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On Wed, Oct 11, 2023, 10:36 PM void <void@f-m.fm> wrote:

> On Thu, 12 Oct 2023, at 04:25, Warner Losh wrote:
>
> > This has never changed.
>
> Are changes to the EFI/msdos documented/announced?
>

Not really. ZFS changes are not documented apart from git log. EFI changes
to base are documented when there are user visible changes...

But as I've said several times, for base, zpool upgrade is the only time
loader.efi needs to be updated in the ESP.

But there are many pieces here. The EFI firmware for rpi comes from pkg
bits. There's a lot going on there that's random because u-boot can be
random. And it kinda sounds like this is what happened to you.

Warner

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<div dir=3D"auto"><div><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" =
class=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed, Oct 11, 2023, 10:36 PM void &lt;<a href=3D"mai=
lto:void@f-m.fm">void@f-m.fm</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"g=
mail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-l=
eft:1ex">On Thu, 12 Oct 2023, at 04:25, Warner Losh wrote:<br>
<br>
&gt; This has never changed.<br>
<br>
Are changes to the EFI/msdos documented/announced?<br></blockquote></div></=
div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Not really. ZFS changes a=
re not documented apart from git log. EFI changes to base are documented wh=
en there are user visible changes...</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div =
dir=3D"auto">But as I&#39;ve said several times, for base, zpool upgrade is=
 the only time loader.efi needs to be updated in the ESP.</div><div dir=3D"=
auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">But there are many pieces here. The EFI f=
irmware for rpi comes from pkg bits. There&#39;s a lot going on there that&=
#39;s random because u-boot can be random. And it kinda sounds like this is=
 what happened to you.=C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"a=
uto">Warner=C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></=
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1ex">
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