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Date:      Sat, 04 Jun 2016 14:23:33 -0700
From:      Matthew Macy <mmacy@nextbsd.org>
To:        "William A. Mahaffey III" <wam@hiwaay.net>
Cc:        "freebsd-x11@freebsd.org" <freebsd-x11@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: laptop recommendations for radeon driver testing
Message-ID:  <1551d4cb275.c5ed22e3125558.3461924622781584508@nextbsd.org>
In-Reply-To: <debf1f8e-a618-ea47-8944-659d72c9a278@hiwaay.net>
References:  <1551a1b8b6d.dec889f4110266.157903038967158872@nextbsd.org> <cc10a665-88b7-4848-e191-695c1f338369@kapsi.fi> <debf1f8e-a618-ea47-8944-659d72c9a278@hiwaay.net>

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 ---- On Sat, 04 Jun 2016 14:12:52 -0700 William A. Mahaffey III <wam@hiwaay.net> wrote ---- 
 > On 06/04/16 16:09, Arto Pekkanen wrote: 
 > > I have no laptop recommendations for now (lack of information, need more 
 > > research), but in the mean time I can recommend this mini-ITX motherboard: 
 > > http://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/QC5000-ITX/ 
 > > or 
 > > http://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/QC5000-ITXWiFi/ 
 > > 
 > > So if you cannot find a suitable cheap laptop, you could try getting one 
 > > of these Asrock QC-5000 boards. 
 > > 
 > > I have this Asrock QC-5000/ITX (without wifi) on my server. It is the 
 > > best low-wattage NAS board I've ever used. Better than any Atom board 
 > > available, if you compare the wattage/performance ration and 
 > > features/price. It also has all the connectors you will ever need, 
 > > including video connectors. 
 > > 
 > > The brute performance of the integrated AMD A4/Kabini processor is 
 > > pretty mediocre compared to intel i3/i5/i7 and the like, but it is 
 > > enough to drive most common desktop applications. It probably does NOT 
 > > have enough power to render 1080p h264 video without GPU decoding, but 
 > > 720p should work. 
 > > 
 > > According to this wiki article, Kabini should be a GCN 2nd Generation: 
 > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graphics_Core_Next#GCN_2nd_Generation_.22GCN_1.1.22_.28Sea_Islands.2C_HD_7790_and_Rx_290.2F260_Series.29 
 > > 
 > > Also here it was mentioned that the HD 8330 in Kabini APUs is based on 
 > > the GCN architecture: 
 > > http://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-Radeon-HD-8330.92874.0.html 
 > > 
 > > I ordered one from Germany brand new, and it cost me only around 75 
 > > euros (with shipping to Finland) at the time. Because these boards are 
 > > so cheap and awesome, it might be hard to find them sold used. 
 > > 
 > > On 04.06.2016 09:31, Matthew Macy wrote: 
 > >> I have an Ivy Bridge, a Haswell, a Skylake, and a Cherry Trail based system for testing i915 - along with an Arrandale (T410) on the way. I have a Thinkpad e565, a Fury X, and a Fury Nano for testing amdgpu. However,  I have nothing that uses Radeon. After all the time I've put in to Intel (continue to put in :-/) I feel that I would be remiss in simply tossing the code out there and hoping that it works. This all a long winded way of saying please recommend a pre-GCN3 based laptop. 
 > >> 
 > >> 
 > >> I know I could easily obtain a card, but my desktop isn't for crash testing, and my servers are for network testing and network cards don't seem to cohabit well. At least when I tried to put a GTX980Ti in next to a Intel Niantic 10GigE card the system didn't boot. 
 > >> 
 > >> Thanks. 
 > >> 
 > >> -M 
 > >> 
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 >  
 >  
 > I *think* I have one of those as well (is there a 'sysctl' incantation  
 > that will tell me ?), the board on this machine as I type this, *LOVE*  
 > it. Just wish the gfx acceleration worked ;-/ .... 
 >  
 >  

sysctl hw.model?

GCN2 is actually supported by BOTH radeon and amdgpu. I have amdgpu loading (and when I start dogfooding that will be the driver that gets all the use), but debugging it is taking a backseat to fixing support gaps in i915. A GCN1 system would actually be ideal as that's something that will only be supported by radeon - at least until the end of the year.

Thanks.

-M


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 >  
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