Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 11:31:49 +0100 From: Roman Neuhauser <neuhauser@mobil.cz> To: FreeBSD Questions <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG> Subject: Re: loose packages Message-ID: <20020313103148.GY63612@roman.mobil.cz> In-Reply-To: <dtbsdta5zz.sdt@localhost.localdomain> References: <OE56dOgl4rhYQYx3G5a00000c55@hotmail.com> <20020312155327.ABE2E5F803@postfix2-2.free.fr> <20020312164736.GR63612@roman.mobil.cz> <dtbsdta5zz.sdt@localhost.localdomain>
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> To: Roman Neuhauser <neuhauser@mobil.cz>
> Cc: FreeBSD Questions <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
> Subject: Re: loose packages
> From: swear@blarg.net (Gary W. Swearingen)
> Date: 12 Mar 2002 12:25:04 -0800
please do respect MFT headers in my messages. :)
> Roman Neuhauser <neuhauser@mobil.cz> writes:
> > > From: mess-mate <messmate@free.fr>
> > > Sorry, this is not the solution.
> > > To do this there must be packages in /usr/ports/distfiles or
> > > anywhere, isn't ?
> >
> > Yes. Like on the internet. If you do
> > # cd /usr/ports/x11/kde2
> > # make install
> > it'll fetch the necessary tarballs from internet, place them in
> > /usr/ports/distfiles, unpack, compile, and install the software.
> >
> > > So the only way to reinstal KDE is to do it from my isntall CD, but
> > > HOW ?
> >
> > that's not true. Kris already gave you the correct answer.
>
> Be nice.
sorry if that sounded rude. I still read it as a short, informative,
and correct statement. the message I replied to was also an
indication that the advice wasn't even tried.
correction: the original reply wasn't from Kris Kennaway, as I
thought, but from Jeff Jeter
(http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=freebsd-questions&m=101578765530802&w=2)
> New people may still be under the misapprehension from reading
> CD cases and the Handbook that they only need the set of FreeBSD CDs to
> use FreeBSD, at least until the next set is released.
that's exactly how I use FreeBSD on one machine. :)
> To compile a port, you simply change to the directory of the
> program you wish to install, type make install, and let the system
> do the rest. The full original distribution for each port you build
> is retrieved dynamically off the CDROM or a local FTP site, ...
this is also described in ports(7), and the Handbook.
> Mr. mess-mate is learning the truth the discouraging way. I think the
> intro stuff should warn upfront that users of the OS are very apt to be
> significantly hindered by broken or quickly obsoleted software if they
> don't have a good Internet connection. Maybe that should go without
> saying, but I don't think so. I've found myself "needing" to download
> MUCH more than I ever did with Linux.
haven't used linux that much, I can't comment on this.
> I suspect that many on dial-up find it intolerable. I don't know what
> can be done about it except to stop telling newbies they need to run a
> full cvsup and ports upgrade every time they have a problem (or even
> regularly). It is good advice for some, but I'm sure it drives others
> away before they learn how to avoid the frequent downloading.
well, I use FreeBSD on a machine with *no* internet connection, and
barring the occasional transfer of fresh vim sources (patches) on a
floppy, it's been a painless experience: GENERIC 4.4-RELEASE,
Xfree86-4.1.0 (package), blackbox.
I avoid behemoths like KDE where I can, so I don't have many
problems people insisting on using such stuff have.
--
FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE
11:03AM up 13 days, 12:10, 20 users, load averages: 0.07, 0.12, 0.08
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