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Date:      Tue, 12 Sep 2006 13:57:10 +0200
From:      Christian Laursen <xi@borderworlds.dk>
To:        freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: gjournal and Softupdates
Message-ID:  <ygf64ftnvqh.fsf@dominion.borderworlds.dk>
In-Reply-To: <ee668n$5uu$1@sea.gmane.org> (Ivan Voras's message of "Tue, 12 Sep 2006 13:38:49 %2B0200")
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Ivan Voras <ivoras@fer.hr> writes:

> Christian Laursen wrote:
>
>> Journaling also needs writes to be done in the correct order. You don't
>> want to write the real update to the filesystem before you have made sure
>
> Ok, but journal is (or should be) protected by checksumming or some
> kind of record markers, so invalid entries are not replayed.

That is not the issue. Recognizing valid journal entries should be easy
enough.

Consider the following sequence of events:

1. Data A is written to the journal
2. The journal is flushed to disk
3. Data A is written to the filesystem

Now consider what happens if the disk is reordering writes:

1. Data A is partially written to the journal
2. Data A is partially written to the filesystem
3. The system crashes

You now have an invalid journal entry for data A which will not be
replayed and some unkown amount of the data is already written to the
filesysten possibly leaving it in an inconsistent state.

-- 
Christian Laursen



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