Date: Tue, 22 May 2018 13:22:27 +0100 From: Johannes Lundberg <johalun0@gmail.com> To: Ian FREISLICH <ian.freislich@capeaugusta.com> Cc: x11-list freebsd <freebsd-x11@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: [RFC] Deprecation and removal of the drm2 driver Message-ID: <CAECmPwvirto5=P-bAwtr-kRwtYyv92PPqEGPJz1jExKNdF1TsA@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <f96acb89-3b15-b644-b6fb-e5550a4824fb@capeaugusta.com> References: <3a5edc5c-3caa-830b-4bd9-53ff52feb8a7@freebsd.org> <98aaa85f-1433-e50d-3892-3c5fbff61b85@capeaugusta.com> <CAECmPwt%2BVZQht5CxHWOF2Yhyiuy-X59ovPD29Y95OGxAExKe%2Bw@mail.gmail.com> <f96acb89-3b15-b644-b6fb-e5550a4824fb@capeaugusta.com>
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On Tue, May 22, 2018 at 1:19 PM, Ian FREISLICH < ian.freislich@capeaugusta.com> wrote: > Johannes, > > On drm-stable Xorg no longer crashes on the first execution of Firefox, s= o > that's an improvement. > > FWIW (and not to start a bikeshed discussion) stable in the context of > FreeBSD has meant ABI stability, not crash-free. If you're going to rena= me > the ports, I'd suggest "drm" and "drm-devel". > Yes we've been talking about that. drm-next and drm-stable naming is a bit unfortunate. > > Ian > > > On 05/21/2018 03:30 PM, Johannes Lundberg wrote: > > > > On Mon, May 21, 2018 at 8:01 PM, Ian FREISLICH < > ian.freislich@capeaugusta.com> wrote: > >> Niclas >> >> >> On 05/18/2018 01:58 PM, Niclas Zeising wrote: >> >>> [ Cross posted to freebsd-current@ and freebsd-x11@. Please respect >>> reply-to and send all replies to freebsd-x11@. Thanks! ] >>> >>> >>> Hi! >>> I propose that we remove the old drm2 driver (sys/dev/drm2) from >>> FreeBSD. I suggest the driver is marked as deprecated in 11.x and remo= ved >>> from 12.0, as was done for other drivers recently. Some background and >>> rationale: >>> >>> The drm2 driver was the original port of a KMS driver to FreeBSD. It wa= s >>> done by Konstantin Belousov to support Intel graphics cards, and later >>> extended by Jean-S=C3=A9bastien P=C3=A9dron as well as Konstantin to ma= tch what's in >>> Linux 3.8. This included unstable support from Haswell, but nothing ne= wer >>> than that. >>> >>> For quite some time now we have had the graphics/drm-stable-kmod and >>> graphics/drm-next-kmods which provides support for modern AMD and Intel >>> graphics cards. These ports, together with the linuxkpi, or lkpi, has = made >>> it significantly easier to port and update our graphics drivers. Furthe= r, >>> these new drivers cover the same drivers as the old drm2 driver. >>> >>> What does the community think? Is there anyone still using the drm2 >>> driver on 12-CURRENT? If so, what is preventing you from switching to = the >>> port? >>> >> >> I'm running -CURRENT on all my systems. I have a "3rd Gen" HD Graphics >> 4000 that I'm running drm-next on but I'm about to revert to drm2 becaus= e >> of instabilities. Xorg spontaneously crashes, and doesn't on drm2. I al= so >> have a Haswell system running drm2 which I have not tried drm-next becau= se >> SWMBO is particularly intolerant of stuff not working. >> > > If drm-next-kmod is causing issues, please try drm-stable-kmod. (we shoul= d > really rename drm-next to drm-unstable/beta..) > > >> >> I also ran drm-next successfully on a Sunrise Point-LP system with "Inte= l >> UHD Graphics 620" because drm2 didn't support the graphics chip before >> switching to linux to get the trackpad and sound working. >> >> I guess the situation is that your mileage may vary depending on your >> system. I'm OK with installing drm2 from ports, but at this point I'm n= ot >> really OK with loosing drm2 at this stage because of the instability in >> drm-next on my one system. >> >> Ian >> >> -- >> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-x11@freebsd.org mailing list >> https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-x11 >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-x11-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > > > -- > Ian Freislich > +1 404 574 0228 > > >
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