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Date:      Tue, 2 Sep 2008 19:12:30 +0930
From:      "Daniel O'Connor" <doconnor@gsoft.com.au>
To:        freebsd-current@freebsd.org
Cc:        Volodymyr Kostyrko <c.kworr@gmail.com>
Subject:   Re: RFC: moving sysutils/fusefs-kmod to base system
Message-ID:  <200809021912.38401.doconnor@gsoft.com.au>
In-Reply-To: <g9it70$bm7$1@ger.gmane.org>
References:  <48BB4FEB.1050906@gmail.com> <g9it70$bm7$1@ger.gmane.org>

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On Tue, 2 Sep 2008, Volodymyr Kostyrko wrote:
> Aryeh M. Friedman wrote:
> > Unless I understand how the kernel does stuff there is no penalty
> > for having unused modules (except the size of the kernel that needs
> > to be loaded).   Keeping in mind that unless I am not reading stuff
> > corectly fusefs-kmod is the only FS related module that is not in
> > the base system.   Since any fundamental changes in the generic FS
> > API seems to break fusefs-kmod, and cause some very nasty effects
> > that are almost impossible to trace to fusefs-kmod (machine freezes
> > so no output or core dump)  it seems to make sense to move it to=20
> > the base system  (after all we already do this with third party FS
> > code like x/zfs)  by moving it we force it to always compile
> > instead of breaking
>
> This can be done by documenting usage of make.conf PORTS_MODULES
> knob. Just a little notice in ports would suffice, not anybody out
> there compiles a new kernel daily.

<soapbox>
It would be nice if ports could put their kernel module source somewhere=20
so that a buildkernel would build it.

This has several advantages
=2D You don't upgrade the port unless you want to when building a kernel.
=2D If the kernel API changes you find out because the port doesn't=20
  compile then you can make an informed decision.
=2D You don't need a working network connection to rebuild your kernel.

</soapbox>

I did make some strawman patches for this but my make fu is weak so it=20
wasn't very reliable :(

=2D-=20
Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer
for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au
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