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Date:      Tue, 2 Jan 2001 23:03:24 -0600
From:      "Michael C . Wu" <keichii@iteration.net>
To:        Greg Black <gjb@gbch.net>
Cc:        Gerhard Sittig <Gerhard.Sittig@gmx.net>, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: how to test out cron.c changes? (was: cvs commit: src/etc crontab)
Message-ID:  <20010102230324.B65492@peorth.iteration.net>
In-Reply-To: <nospam-3a52acc66204da2@maxim.gbch.net>; from gjb@gbch.net on Wed, Jan 03, 2001 at 02:38:30PM %2B1000
References:  <200011191816.KAA81473@freefall.freebsd.org> <20001119214008.Z27042@speedy.gsinet> <20001120143658.B4415@netmode.ece.ntua.gr> <20001120193326.C27042@speedy.gsinet> <20001205225656.Z27042@speedy.gsinet> <20001220211548.T253@speedy.gsinet> <3A513799.75EAB470@FreeBSD.org> <20010102133239.V253@speedy.gsinet> <nospam-3a52acc66204da2@maxim.gbch.net>

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On Wed, Jan 03, 2001 at 02:38:30PM +1000, Greg Black scribbled:
| Gerhard Sittig wrote:
| > Is there anyone out there who feels like rejecting the proposal
| > for a *reason*?  Or to accept the idea, but to redirect the
| > effort to a "real solution"?  I somehow doubt you'd rather
| > explain again and again that cron(8) isn't broken but that users
| > should shuffle around the daily job's execution time ...
| 
| I'm opposed to the changes.  Those people who live in places
| that use daylight savings time should be aware of its effect on

You see, "those people" equates to sysadmins living in
North/South America, Europe, Australia, and some other places.

| their lives and should understand that scheduling events to fall
| during the missed or repeated time at the changeover (whether by
| cron or by any other mechanism) is going to produce anomalous
| results.  Therefore, the /right/ thing to do is to avoid the
| times where this problem can occur.
| 
| IMO, the solution is to put a note at the top of the distributed
| /etc/crontab file suggesting that people who have DST not put
| jobs in the transition times, together with similar notes in the
| relevant man pages and in comments at the top of the files that
| are generated by crontab.

Daylight savings time is here to stay.  Nobody is going to change
this for bunch of unix servers.  I do not understand why people resist
change in FreeBSD so much.  This does not hurt anybody.

Mr.Blacks' /etc/crontab comment idea is quite the thing 
that we try to avoid in the tree. 

--
Sigh, yet another bikeshed.
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