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Date:      Fri, 22 Jun 2012 10:24:55 -0700
From:      Fahad <fahad@budacom.net>
To:        freebsd-security@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: / owned by bin causes sshd to complain bad ownership
Message-ID:  <4FE4AA67.4060900@budacom.net>
In-Reply-To: <op.wgbcfrwf34t2sn@tech304>
References:  <201206221343.q5MDhmvS045187@fire.js.berklix.net> <20120622155928.GA9983@DataIX.net> <op.wgbcfrwf34t2sn@tech304>

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As Mark put it, if everything is owned by bin you would need to be root 
to do anything.  Where is the benefit in
this ?, you mentioned stupid junior admins , well in that case have a 
better hiring process , no need to obfuscate the current
setup.



On 06/22/2012 09:36 AM, Mark Felder wrote:
> On Fri, 22 Jun 2012 10:59:28 -0500, Jason Hellenthal 
> <jhellenthal@dataix.net> wrote:
>
>>
>> Security principles are well laid out and have not changed in a long
>> time. Vering away from those principles will cause a LOT of
>> administrative overhead as most software out there can expect a sane
>> environment if / is root:wheel
>
> Well he claims that bin owned everything back in the day and I didn't 
> touch a *nix system until long after the time he describes. I can't 
> imagine the benefit or functionality of a system with bin owning 
> everything.... if everything precious is owned by bin, and bin isn't a 
> standard system user, someone would have to elevate to root to do 
> anything nasty. In the current setup you'd have to elevate to root to 
> do something nasty.
>
> I see no benefit in binaries or libraries being owned by bin.
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