Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 22:26:43 +0000 From: Stacey Roberts <stacey@vickiandstacey.com> To: Jeremy Messenger <mezz7@cox.net> Cc: gnome@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Long delays in Gnome2 start up Message-ID: <20040311222643.GC338@crom.vickiandstacey.com> In-Reply-To: <opr4pwzlg78ckrg5@smtp.central.cox.net> References: <1078967224.565.18.camel@localhost> <opr4pqvhez8ckrg5@smtp.central.cox.net> <20040311211702.GA338@crom.vickiandstacey.com> <opr4pvbbsr8ckrg5@smtp.central.cox.net> <20040311213945.GB338@crom.vickiandstacey.com> <opr4pwzlg78ckrg5@smtp.central.cox.net>
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Hi Mezz.,
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeremy Messenger <mezz7@cox.net>"
To: To Stacey Roberts
Date: Thu, 11 Mar, 2004 22:05 GMT
Subject: Re: Long delays in Gnome2 start up
> On Thu, 11 Mar 2004 21:39:45 +0000, Stacey Roberts=20
> <stacey@vickiandstacey.com> wrote:
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> >Hi Mezz.,
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Jeremy Messenger <mezz7@cox.net>"
> >To: To Stacey Roberts
> >Date: Thu, 11 Mar, 2004 21:29 GMT
> >Subject: Re: Long delays in Gnome2 start up
> >
> >>On Thu, 11 Mar 2004 21:17:03 +0000, Stacey Roberts
> >><stacey@vickiandstacey.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>>Hello Mezz..,
> >>> Thanks for the reply.
> >>>
> >>>----- Original Message -----
> >>>From: "Jeremy Messenger <mezz7@cox.net>"
> >>>To: To stacey@vickiandstacey.com
> >>>Date: Thu, 11 Mar, 2004 19:53 GMT
> >>>Subject: Re: Long delays in Gnome2 start up
> >>>
> >>>>Try to create a new dummy user like tester to see if your GNOME will
> >>>>startup faster. If so, then there are something wrong in one of in=20
> >>your
> >>>>personal directory like ~/.gnome2, ~/.gconf and etc. You can remove
> >>>>these
> >>>>directories on your normal user and let GNOME to startup fresh.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>No need to, I already have a spare user on the box to use for this. As=
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> >>I
> >>>suspected, logging in with that other user results in a fast Gnome2
> >>>startup.
> >>
> >>A spare user with no GNOME personal directories? Do you mean, it does
> >>login faster on the spare user?
> >
> >Yes. I often create two users that I can use, but only use one. I've=20
> >never had the need to use any other than my primary user, so when this=
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> >problem started last night I figured on checking to see if it happens=20
> >for everyone (including root).
> >
> >As things turned out, both root and the other (spare) user can log in=20
> >fine.
> >
> >Thought I should also mention that for my primary user (the account for=
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> >whom the delays occur), I'd already tried the following: -
> >
> >1] rm -rf .g*
> >2] rm -rf .esd*
> >3] Ran startx
> >4] Gnome2 starts fine
> >5] Do nothing
> >6] Log off
> >7] Run startx again
> >8] Long delay in Gnome2 startup
> >
> >I've done that procedure about four times now, just to make sure I=20
> >wasn't going crazy.
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> Umm, if it works fine on root and other users then it must be problem=20
> somewhere in your primary user. So, if you reinstall GNOME and you might=
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> still have the same problem. :-) Can you try do the full one? Like this:
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> rm -rf .ICE* .Trash .Xauth* .gconf* .gnome* .gtk* .esd* .fonts.cache-1=20
> .meta* .nau* .recent* .thumb* .xscreen*
Oh.., I didn't try removing those..,=20
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> Also, there have few stuff in the /var/tmp/ like this:
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> gconfd-${user} mapping-${user} orbit-${user}
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> So, change from ${user} to your primary user then try to remove them. I=
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> don't know if it will help, but I think it's a worth shot. Also, be sure=
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> to check in the top or ps to make sure one of GNOME's app exit correct=20
> before you try to do the startx again. This is my last suggest what I can=
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> think of, before you want to reinstall GNOME.
Okay.., check me on this please.., just so I know that I follow: -
Here's how I see your instructions set:
a] Log off Gnome2
b] run top / ps to verify that all Gnome2 apps have exited cleanly (kill of=
f any lingering Gnome2 apps still appearing in top / ps)
c] Run rm -rf for .ICE*, .Trash, .Xauth*, .gconf*, .gnome*, .gtk*, .esd*, .=
fonts.cache-1, .meta*, .nau*, .recent*, .thumb*, & .xscree*
d] Run rm -rf for any instances for gconfd-stacey, mapping-stacey & orbit-s=
tacey in /var/tmp
e] Run startx
Let me know if I've got that procedure correct, please.
Thanks again.
Regards,
Stacey
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> Cheers,
> Mezz
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> >Thanks for the reply, by the way.
> >
> >Regards,
> >
> >Stacey
> >
> >>
> >>Cheers,
> >>Mezz
> >>
> >>>>One more thing, make sure your hostname is working. X will startup=20
> >>very
> >>>>slow if you don't have the correct hostname. IE: fix the /etc/hosts by
> >>>>add
> >>>>your hostname in it point on 127.0.0.1.
> >>>
> >>>This is not a problem.
> >>>
> >>>What *has* become a problem that I've noticed as well, is the fact that
> >>>even attempting to log out of Gnome2 takes almost 5 minutes now too.
> >>>This is the time from clicking on "Actions", "Log Out".., desktop locks
> >>>up.., five minutes later, the confirmation dialogue box appears.
> >>>Clicking on "Okay", results in the log out then proceeding as per=20
> >>normal.
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>>BTW: reinstall apps aren't always a solution.
> >>>
> >>>One would think that, but at the end of the day, I'm inclined to
> >>>reinstall something that's broken, rather than work with something that
> >>>was "hacked back together". The fact that this machine was up and
> >>>running well after the reinstall of Gnome back in 2002.
> >>>
> >>>Thanks again for taking the time.
> >>>
> >>>Regards,
> >>>
> >>>Stacey
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>>Cheers,
> >>>>Mezz
> >>>>
> >>>>On Thu, 11 Mar 2004 01:07:05 +0000, Stacey Roberts
> >>>><stacey@vickiandstacey.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>Hello,
> >>>>> I've just had a strangely familiar problem re-occur with me
> >>>>>tonight.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>For some reason, when I try to start gnome2 (with startx) there is a
> >>>>>very long delay before the splash thingy appears - almost 4 minutes.=
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> >>I
> >>>>>mentioned familiar for the simple reason that this exact problem
> >>>>>happened to me a couple of years ago, whilst I was running Gnome-1.2=
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> >>(I
> >>>>>think).
> >>>>>
> >>>>>The short story of the eventual fix for me then was to reinstall=20
> >>Gnome.
> >>>>>I am now wondering if anyone is able to help me with this problem now
> >>>>>appearing now that I'm running Gnome-2.4.2.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>I'll include what details I think are relevant here, but if there's=
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> >>any
> >>>>>information I can add, please let me know.
> >>>>>
> >>>><snip>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Like I said, if there's anything else I can offer, then let me know.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Regards,
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Stacey
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>--
> >>>>bsdforums.org 's moderator, mezz.
> >>
> >>
> >>--
> >>bsdforums.org 's moderator, mezz.
> >>
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> --=20
> bsdforums.org 's moderator, mezz.
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Stacey Roberts
B. Sc (HONS) Computer Science
Web: www.vickiandstacey.com
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