Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 23:20:50 +0000 From: Stacey Roberts <stacey@vickiandstacey.com> To: Jeremy Messenger <mezz7@cox.net> Cc: gnome@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Long delays in Gnome2 start up Message-ID: <20040311232050.GD338@crom.vickiandstacey.com> In-Reply-To: <opr4px4op68ckrg5@smtp.central.cox.net> References: <1078967224.565.18.camel@localhost> <opr4pqvhez8ckrg5@smtp.central.cox.net> <20040311211702.GA338@crom.vickiandstacey.com> <opr4pvbbsr8ckrg5@smtp.central.cox.net> <20040311213945.GB338@crom.vickiandstacey.com> <opr4pwzlg78ckrg5@smtp.central.cox.net> <20040311222643.GC338@crom.vickiandstacey.com> <opr4px4op68ckrg5@smtp.central.cox.net>
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Hi Mezz,
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeremy Messenger <mezz7@cox.net>"
To: To Stacey Roberts
Date: Thu, 11 Mar, 2004 22:30 GMT
Subject: Re: Long delays in Gnome2 start up
> On Thu, 11 Mar 2004 22:26:43 +0000, Stacey Roberts=20
> <stacey@vickiandstacey.com> wrote:
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> >Hi Mezz.,
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Jeremy Messenger <mezz7@cox.net>"
> >To: To Stacey Roberts
> >Date: Thu, 11 Mar, 2004 22:05 GMT
> >Subject: Re: Long delays in Gnome2 start up
> >
> >>On Thu, 11 Mar 2004 21:39:45 +0000, Stacey Roberts
> >><stacey@vickiandstacey.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>>Hi Mezz.,
> >>>
> >>>----- Original Message -----
> >>>From: "Jeremy Messenger <mezz7@cox.net>"
> >>>To: To Stacey Roberts
> >>>Date: Thu, 11 Mar, 2004 21:29 GMT
> >>>Subject: Re: Long delays in Gnome2 start up
> >>>
> >>>>On Thu, 11 Mar 2004 21:17:03 +0000, Stacey Roberts
> >>>><stacey@vickiandstacey.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>Hello Mezz..,
> >>>>> Thanks for the reply.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>----- Original Message -----
> >>>>>From: "Jeremy Messenger <mezz7@cox.net>"
> >>>>>To: To stacey@vickiandstacey.com
> >>>>>Date: Thu, 11 Mar, 2004 19:53 GMT
> >>>>>Subject: Re: Long delays in Gnome2 start up
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>Try to create a new dummy user like tester to see if your GNOME will
> >>>>>>startup faster. If so, then there are something wrong in one of in
> >>>>your
> >>>>>>personal directory like ~/.gnome2, ~/.gconf and etc. You can remove
> >>>>>>these
> >>>>>>directories on your normal user and let GNOME to startup fresh.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>No need to, I already have a spare user on the box to use for this.=
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> >>As
> >>>>I
> >>>>>suspected, logging in with that other user results in a fast Gnome2
> >>>>>startup.
> >>>>
> >>>>A spare user with no GNOME personal directories? Do you mean, it does
> >>>>login faster on the spare user?
> >>>
> >>>Yes. I often create two users that I can use, but only use one. I've
> >>>never had the need to use any other than my primary user, so when this
> >>>problem started last night I figured on checking to see if it happens
> >>>for everyone (including root).
> >>>
> >>>As things turned out, both root and the other (spare) user can log in
> >>>fine.
> >>>
> >>>Thought I should also mention that for my primary user (the account for
> >>>whom the delays occur), I'd already tried the following: -
> >>>
> >>>1] rm -rf .g*
> >>>2] rm -rf .esd*
> >>>3] Ran startx
> >>>4] Gnome2 starts fine
> >>>5] Do nothing
> >>>6] Log off
> >>>7] Run startx again
> >>>8] Long delay in Gnome2 startup
> >>>
> >>>I've done that procedure about four times now, just to make sure I
> >>>wasn't going crazy.
> >>
> >>Umm, if it works fine on root and other users then it must be problem
> >>somewhere in your primary user. So, if you reinstall GNOME and you might
> >>still have the same problem. :-) Can you try do the full one? Like this:
> >>
> >>rm -rf .ICE* .Trash .Xauth* .gconf* .gnome* .gtk* .esd* .fonts.cache-1
> >>.meta* .nau* .recent* .thumb* .xscreen*
> >
> >Oh.., I didn't try removing those..,
> >
> >>
> >>Also, there have few stuff in the /var/tmp/ like this:
> >>
> >>gconfd-${user} mapping-${user} orbit-${user}
> >>
> >>So, change from ${user} to your primary user then try to remove them. I
> >>don't know if it will help, but I think it's a worth shot. Also, be sure
> >>to check in the top or ps to make sure one of GNOME's app exit correct
> >>before you try to do the startx again. This is my last suggest what I=
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> >>can
> >>think of, before you want to reinstall GNOME.
> >
> >Okay.., check me on this please.., just so I know that I follow: -
> >
> >Here's how I see your instructions set:
> >
> >a] Log off Gnome2
> >b] run top / ps to verify that all Gnome2 apps have exited cleanly (kill=
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> >off any lingering Gnome2 apps still appearing in top / ps)
> >c] Run rm -rf for .ICE*, .Trash, .Xauth*, .gconf*, .gnome*, .gtk*,=20
> >.esd*, .fonts.cache-1, .meta*, .nau*, .recent*, .thumb*, & .xscree*
> >d] Run rm -rf for any instances for gconfd-stacey, mapping-stacey &=20
> >orbit-stacey in /var/tmp
> >e] Run startx
> >
> >Let me know if I've got that procedure correct, please.
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> Yeah, it looks fine.
Okay.., did all that (a to e)
Ran startx
Splash screen thingy started only after 3 seconds
Delay of about 30 seconds before the various components stuff appears acros=
s the Splash screen thingy
Gnome2 starts up
Virgin Gnome2 desktop loads
Waited for about 30 seconds
Clicked on Actions, Log Out
Screen locks for 2 minutes
The "Are you sure you want to log out?" dialogue box appears
Clicked "Yes" (without selecting box to save settings)
Gnome2 logs out
Here's what I've seen on console:
(nautilus:84885): Bonobo-CRITICAL **: file bonobo-control-frame.c: line 720=
(bonobo_control_frame_set_ui_container): assertion `frame->priv->activated=
=3D=3D FALSE' failed
** (nautilus:845885): WARNING **: destroyed file still being monitored
(repeated four times)
(nautilus:84885): Bonobo-WARNING **: Leaked a total of 1 refs to 1 bonobo o=
bject(s)
Ran startx again
Gnome2 loads nice and quick
Set background
Clicked on Actions, Log out
Desktop locked up for 1 min 40 seconds
The "Are you sure you want to log out" dialogue box appears
I ticked the "Save current set up" check box
Clicked "Okay"
Gnome2 exits
That set of "bonobo-related" messages are on the console
Ran startx
Gnome2 starts nice and fast
Set up some "Sound preferences": -
Enable sound server startup & Sounds for events
Clicked on "Sound Events" tab
Under "User interface menus" I highlight "Choose menu item"
Clicked on "Browse"
Desktop locked up for 2 mins 33 seconds before the "Select sound file" box =
appears
I select "activate.wav", and clicked "Okay"
Selecting other sound events after this runs a lot faster
Closed the "Sound preferences" application
Clicked on Actions, Log out, No screen lockups, "Are you sure you want to l=
og out" dialogue box appears immediately.
I check the "Save current setup" checkbox
Clicked "Okay"
Gnome2 exits immediately
Set of "bonobo-related" messages are back on console
Waited a few (30) seconds
Ran startx
Delay of 2 mins 55 seconds before the splash screen thingy appears
Gnome2 quickly loads thereafter
Waited for 10 seconds (did nothing)
Logged out
Gnome2 exits immediately
Ran startx again
Delay of 3 mins 5 seconds before the splash screen thingy appears
Gnome2 loads immediately after
Sound events work, by the way :-(
What's going on?
Regards,
Stacey
>=20
> Cheers,
> Mezz
>=20
> >Thanks again.
> >
> >Regards,
> >
> >Stacey
> >
> >>
> >>Cheers,
> >>Mezz
> >>
> >>>Thanks for the reply, by the way.
> >>>
> >>>Regards,
> >>>
> >>>Stacey
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>>Cheers,
> >>>>Mezz
> >>>>
> >>>>>>One more thing, make sure your hostname is working. X will startup
> >>>>very
> >>>>>>slow if you don't have the correct hostname. IE: fix the /etc/hosts=
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> >>by
> >>>>>>add
> >>>>>>your hostname in it point on 127.0.0.1.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>This is not a problem.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>What *has* become a problem that I've noticed as well, is the fact=
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> >>that
> >>>>>even attempting to log out of Gnome2 takes almost 5 minutes now too.
> >>>>>This is the time from clicking on "Actions", "Log Out".., desktop=20
> >>locks
> >>>>>up.., five minutes later, the confirmation dialogue box appears.
> >>>>>Clicking on "Okay", results in the log out then proceeding as per
> >>>>normal.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>BTW: reinstall apps aren't always a solution.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>One would think that, but at the end of the day, I'm inclined to
> >>>>>reinstall something that's broken, rather than work with something=
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> >>that
> >>>>>was "hacked back together". The fact that this machine was up and
> >>>>>running well after the reinstall of Gnome back in 2002.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Thanks again for taking the time.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Regards,
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Stacey
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Cheers,
> >>>>>>Mezz
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>On Thu, 11 Mar 2004 01:07:05 +0000, Stacey Roberts
> >>>>>><stacey@vickiandstacey.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Hello,
> >>>>>>> I've just had a strangely familiar problem re-occur with me
> >>>>>>>tonight.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>For some reason, when I try to start gnome2 (with startx) there is=
=20
> >>a
> >>>>>>>very long delay before the splash thingy appears - almost 4=20
> >>minutes.
> >>>>I
> >>>>>>>mentioned familiar for the simple reason that this exact problem
> >>>>>>>happened to me a couple of years ago, whilst I was running=20
> >>Gnome-1.2
> >>>>(I
> >>>>>>>think).
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>The short story of the eventual fix for me then was to reinstall
> >>>>Gnome.
> >>>>>>>I am now wondering if anyone is able to help me with this problem=
=20
> >>now
> >>>>>>>appearing now that I'm running Gnome-2.4.2.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>I'll include what details I think are relevant here, but if there's
> >>>>any
> >>>>>>>information I can add, please let me know.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>><snip>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Like I said, if there's anything else I can offer, then let me=20
> >>know.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Regards,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Stacey
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>--
> >>>>>>bsdforums.org 's moderator, mezz.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>--
> >>>>bsdforums.org 's moderator, mezz.
> >>>>
> >>
> >>
> >>--
> >>bsdforums.org 's moderator, mezz.
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>=20
> --=20
> bsdforums.org 's moderator, mezz.
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Stacey Roberts
B. Sc (HONS) Computer Science
Web: www.vickiandstacey.com
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