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Date:      Fri, 20 Aug 2004 17:46:38 +0300
From:      Ruslan Ermilov <ru@freebsd.org>
To:        Garance A Drosihn <drosih@rpi.edu>
Cc:        alpha@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Alpha is seriously broken
Message-ID:  <20040820144638.GA92603@ip.net.ua>
In-Reply-To: <p06110403bd4bbacb7bee@[128.113.24.47]>
References:  <20040820101817.GE27931@ip.net.ua> <1092999187.9863.2.camel@builder02.qubesoft.com> <20040820105915.GA29178@ip.net.ua> <1093000460.9863.4.camel@builder02.qubesoft.com> <20040820120757.GC29568@ip.net.ua> <xzpn00qeycb.fsf@dwp.des.no> <20040820135844.GA76070@ip.net.ua> <p06110403bd4bbacb7bee@[128.113.24.47]>

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Garance,

Did you read this thread before replying?  :-)

On Fri, Aug 20, 2004 at 10:37:01AM -0400, Garance A Drosihn wrote:
> At 4:58 PM +0300 8/20/04, Ruslan Ermilov wrote:
> >On Fri, Aug 20, 2004, Dag-Erling Sm?rgrav wrote:
> > > Ruslan Ermilov <ru@freebsd.org> writes:
> >> > I think there's no emergency plan other than to reinstall "base"
> >> > on these systems from some older snapshot?
> >>
> > > cross-compile on a different machine in the cluster, copy over
> > > the new make(1), then use it to installworld over NFS.
> >
> >Only if this machine is also Alpha.  To tell you the truth, some bits
> >produced by cross-compiles on different architectures are not ready
> >for use on a native architecture.  This includes binary files such as
> >fortune(6) .dat files, NLS catalogs, etc.  I haven't identified them
> >all yet.
>=20
> If this machine has been getting rebuilt frequently, then maybe you
> can just boot up kernel.old and have a working machine.
>=20
The problem is not with the kernel, but with libc.  Moreover,
it affects all statically linked binaries, so recompiling libc
will not help to recover.  :-(

> If that does not work, and would a cross-compile work well-enough to
> generate a new library (if the problem is a library), or a new kernel
> (if the error is in the kernel).  Or maybe just generate dynamically-
> linked versions of make & cc.  Even if cross-builds are not good
> enough to do a complete buildworld, might they work well enough to
> recover from this with less work than a complete reinstall?
>=20
All static binaries on these two systems crash.  Log in to beast and
give it a try.


Cheers,
--=20
Ruslan Ermilov
ru@FreeBSD.org
FreeBSD committer

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