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Date:      Sat, 9 Mar 1996 13:53:57 -0700 (MST)
From:      Terry Lambert <terry@lambert.org>
To:        peter@jhome.DIALix.COM (Peter Wemm)
Cc:        freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: When is 2.2 Estimated to be released?
Message-ID:  <199603092053.NAA21373@phaeton.artisoft.com>
In-Reply-To: <peter.826356737@jhome.DIALix.COM> from "Peter Wemm" at Mar 9, 96 07:32:17 am

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> >I'd like to see the code differential from 2.1.0 to 2.1.5 be the same
> >as the code differential between 2.0.5 and 2.1.0.
> 
> Dont forget, doing a side release branch is a trememdous amount of work,
> as I'm sure David G. will testify to.  All effort spent on the side-branch
> is directly taken away from major features in -current.

I'm actually agruing *against* side releases when a date comes up
with planned features not present.  I think the "let's do a side
release instead" response is unwarranted.

> The improvements noted are only a small fraction of what's been going on.
> There are a lot of general cleanups and improvements in -current that
> have been done and largely glossed over.  Dont forget that -current and
> -stable diverged at 2.0.5 release.  They have been diverging so much that
> backporting stuff from -current into -stable is starting to consume a
> non-trivial amount of effort.

THAT'S when you do a side release; but numbering it higher just to
number it higher is a bad thing.

> An interesting point:  If the -stable branch was not consuming the amount
> of maintainence time that it has been, we'd most likely _have_ 4.4Lite-2
> and PCMCIA integration, as well as a greatly debugged vm, vfs and kernel.

Yes; I agree that splitting the maintenance from the developement is
needed.  Having people like John, and David, et al spending time
back-porting is a waste of their talents.

> Also, dont forget that things like FS layering, VFS cleanups, etc are being
> put off because of the amount of effort being diverted to maintaining the
> older code trees.  Since these are very dear to your heart, I'd expect
> you'd be the last person suggesting diverting more effort away from what
> might have been spent looking at the changes you want to make.

God forbid!  8-).  No, I think that if an intermediate release occurs,
it should be a sub-point-release; that's all I'm saying.  Jacking up
the version number makes you want to jack up the creeping features,
and that's a *bad* thing.


					Terry Lambert
					terry@lambert.org
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Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present
or previous employers.



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