Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2024 09:51:06 -0800 From: Jose Quinteiro <freebsd@quinteiro.org> To: ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Latest and quarterly best practices Message-ID: <84dca503-78ff-8fed-73d6-153f38478c71@quinteiro.org> In-Reply-To: <ttns-rgv3-wny@FreeBSD.org> References: <NnH9ree--3-9@tuta.io> <ttns-rgv3-wny@FreeBSD.org>
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On 1/4/24 12:19, Jan Beich wrote: > henrichhartzer@tuta.io writes: > >> I propose that as a rule of thumb, if a package uses Semantic >> Versioning (semver) and the changes are non-breaking, it should be >> cherry picked into quarterly. Especially if this is only a patch level >> change and not a minor, but likely either way. > > I tend to cherry-pick everything unless there's a good reason not to. > ABI breakage, POLA, insufficient QA, lack of user-visible changes, > churn fatigue, different maintainer or lack of time are such reasons. > > For example, backporting vulkan-* is mostly churn compared to > backporting mesa-devel which brings actual Vulkan improvements. > >> An opposite case, and this one may be truly a no harm no foul case: >> x11-wm/hyprland was updated from 0.33.1_2 to 0.34.0, and cherrypicked >> to quarterly. There were a number of changes in this release, and I >> personally would be hesitant to recommend such a cherrypicking unless >> there were known issues with 0.33.1 that users had complained >> about. Otherwise, since it's an offline window manager, it seems like >> waiting for the quarterly release would make the most sense. Now in >> this case I don't know the context and cherrypicking may have made >> complete sense -- I'm just using it as an example to try and explain >> my thoughts. > > Wayland ecosystem moves fast. Hyprland is even faster, outpacing Sway. > 0.34.0 made it easier to use plugins, removing the need to create ports. > 0.33.0 removed NVIDIA hacks to bundled wlroots, helping FreeBSD port. > > - Before 1.0 versions have no stability guarantee > - Upstream[1] and the Discord community don't support old releases > - Old releases are frequently buggy > - Backporting generic bug fixes is risky > - I don't want to support old versions of this > > [1] At least the documentation is versioned, see > https://wiki.hyprland.org/version-selector/ > Maybe there are some ports that should not exist in the quarterly branch? Looks like some of these are under such heavy development that they really don't have a stable version. Thanks, Jose
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