Date: Sat, 6 May 2000 17:33:09 +1000 From: Danny <dannyh@idx.com.au> To: Gustavo Vieira Goncalves Coelho Rios <kernel@tdnet.com.br>, Brennan W Stehling <brennan@offwhite.net> Cc: Salvo Bartolotta <bartequi@neomedia.it>, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: low cost consultant (?) Message-ID: <00050617350100.00645@freebsd.freebsd.org> References: <39121ABF.97757D60@tdnet.com.br>
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I aggree 100%. I do not want FreeBSD to loose the focus. FreeBSD is a server OS On Fri, 05 May 2000, Gustavo Vieira Goncalves Coelho Rios wrote: > Brennan W Stehling wrote: > > > > Yes, I have heard the argument that FreeBSD is a developers OS and that > > sound and multimedia are only secondary concerns, but that does not mean > > users should suffer. In fact, the FreeBSD project should embrace users > > and help them in as many ways as possible in hopes that the user base will > > grow. > > Why do you think having a big user base is good ? > Better yet: Good for whom? > > > > Why does Sun officially support a JDK for Linux and not FreeBSD? It is > > pure numbers. If there were more people using FreeBSD as a user machine > > and as a development machine Sun and other companies would take notice and > > start supporting FreeBSD. It comes back to help the developers. > > *BSD is not a desktop OS (i hope the core team keep trying to get the > best possible OS for the server, not the desktop). > > The main questions is: does having dozens of user makes a OS better? I > think no. > Windows have million of user! Is it better that UNIX? I don't really > have a answer for that, but i would not enjoy seeing BSD change its > focus! > > > > It is inevitable that FreeBSD will become popular along with Linux because > > it is a solid system. It uses advanced technology to do things other > > systems cannot, but while it does great things as a server, it can also do > > the simple things like autodetect video and audio so that setup is much > > easier. > > Do you wanna do something very well? Keep your self focused in ONLY one > thing! DONT try to do everytinhg for every one. MS tries to write the > best OS for every one! It's clear impossible! Each kind of user have > different kind of needs. If your are developing a software, try not to > lose your focus (this is requirement for success: DONT try to please > every one, never). > > > > It is so easy to set up most things in FreeBSD but video and audio are > > still difficult. Installing most of the recent Linux distros allows the > > video and audio to be configured automatically. The FreeBSD project does > > not have to create userland applications beyond getting the multimedia > > systems working because projects like Gnome and KDE are doing really well > > in that regard. It would be nice if FreeBSD/BSDi just met them halfway. > > > Setting up things in *BSD is easy, really easier than linux. > When you have automatically actions perfomed, you are in the risk of > having some thing performed that's not what you want (Do you know the > PNP (Plug-And-Pray) devices? I personally dont like than). > I like BSD, cause it does not try to guess what i want to do. I have to > tell it what have to be done. It's a great thing, i am in the control, > Not the OS. > > > (It is regretful these things are becoming so commercial) > > I don't like the approach Linux is having know. I stopped using it since > think started getting too crazy. > People do not see that linux is just a kernel, that's why there is so > many different environments. > > > And if FreeBSD does not tackle these user concerns seriously, what is > > going to stop someone from using FreeBSD and go to Darwin or MacOS X which > > is based on FreeBSD 3.2 but yet will support rich multimedia? What > > happens when FreeBSD loses it's user base instead of growing it? > > > > FreeBSD needs users to stay strong. > > No, it DOES not! All it does is "knownledgeable" (sorry for this word, i > have no a good english. but i think you can see what i meant) user, > i.e., ones with experience on programming, networks, etc... > Remenber, FreeBSD employs the slogan "The Power to server" the "Where to > want to go today" or "The beautyfull GUI to smart users" or things like > that. > > > These are MHO, not necessary the truth (once i have no a GREAT > experience with Free), so please, don't take me wrong. > > []'s > > -- > "Sometimes I worry about being a success in a mediocre world." > -- Lily Tomlin > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message -- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
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