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Date:      Thu, 8 Feb 2001 02:22:23 -0800
From:      "Ted Mittelstaedt" <tedm@toybox.placo.com>
To:        "Doug Young" <dougy@gargoyle.apana.org.au>, <Graham.Lillico@itnet.co.uk>, <freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   RE: SSH
Message-ID:  <004301c091b9$06817aa0$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com>
In-Reply-To: <00c901c091b1$3ce2a860$847e03cb@apana.org.au>

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I've seen the 2 minute login problem on systems before.

What you want to do is on the system that your telnetting
or SSHing _to_ is you want to temporarily rename /etc/resolv.conf
to something else.  Then, logout and log back in.  If the
2 minute delay disappears (which most of the time this will
fix it) then what is going on is that the FreeBSD system is
seeing the incoming Telnet or SSH request from you and is
then issuing a DNS lookup for the Reverse Address Record for
the IP number that your coming in from - and the DNS server
that it's using is timing out.  FreeBSD does this in order to
write a log entry for the activity that contains the real name
of the host, not just it's IP number.

Most of the time DNS servers will fail on reverse address
queries is because the authority responsible for numbering
has not properly configured PTR lookups.  If it's a public
IP number then the numbering authority is the ISP you got
the number from.  If it's a RFC1918 number that you assigned,
then your it.  And, note that simply having an empty PTR
record for the IP number in the DNS is not going to produce
this problem - the misconfiguration has to be more serious than
that.  Common examples are ISP's that specify IP numbers of old
nameservers in ARIN's records (that are subsequently taken down)
or administrators that set up private DNS servers that cannot
make PTR lookups.  (often for RFC1918 number ranges)

The remaining time that the DNS lookups usually will fail is
if an IP number for a nameserver that is specified in /etc/rc.conf
is unreachable.

Ted Mittelstaedt                      tedm@toybox.placo.com
Author of:          The FreeBSD Corporate Networker's Guide
Book website:         http://www.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com


> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG
> [mailto:owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Doug Young
> Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 1:26 AM
> To: Graham.Lillico@itnet.co.uk; freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG
> Subject: Re: SSH
> 
> 
> As far as I know thats normal ..... every SSH login I've ever 
> seen has taken
> about 2 minutes
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <Graham.Lillico@itnet.co.uk>
> To: <freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG>
> Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 7:21 PM
> Subject: SSH
> 
> 
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Can anyone tell me why it is taking so long to log in via ssh, its
> currently
> > taking about 2 minutes from entering my password to getting a shell
> prompt, is
> > this right? if not any ideas what could be causing it?
> >
> > Graham
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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