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Date:      Sun, 20 Feb 2005 13:07:17 -0000
From:      "Steven Hartland" <killing@multiplay.co.uk>
To:        "Darryl L. Miles" <darryl@netbauds.net>, =?iso-8859-1?B?Qmr2cm4gS/ZuaWc=?= <bjoern.koenig@alpha-tierchen.de>, "Kris Kennaway" <kris@obsecurity.org>
Cc:        ports@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: pkg_add for 5.2.1 no longer working...
Message-ID:  <005e01c5174d$1ce3a9d0$b3db87d4@multiplay.co.uk>
References:  <20050220045721.A55CFCCD800@mail.alpha-tierchen.de> <42182D3D.1030706@netbauds.net>

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There's nothing to stop u cvsup'ing port and building locally.
Or even as we do maintain our own archive.

    Steve 
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Darryl L. Miles" <darryl@netbauds.net>

> OBSOLETE!  I would understand you saying its not current, or not the 
> latest, but "obsolete" generally means the version has under gone its 
> complete lifecycle, it came out, was superceeded (5.3), then those last 
> installs of 5.2.1 would get their expected system lifetime to run (lets 
> say 3 years), only at this point would 5.2.1 become obsolete.  This has 
> allowed enough time for all systems to be upgraded from it.
> 
> There must be 1000's of systems out there running 5.2.1 right now and 
> these system (overnight) have already begun the rather steep slope into 
> unmaintainability.
> 
> The main distribution point of freebsd has deleted a few Gb to recover 
> diskspace would the main site be best hosted at one of its mirrors ?
> 
> One huge advantage of binary distrubutions (of packages/ports) is that 
> it makes for easy administration.   Not only just to install the package 
> but if 99% of people will be using that same binary package (over 
> building it themselves), those 99% of people can use their advantage of 
> having that specific binary/build tested over a large userbase, use that 
> advantage to know how and if they are affected by security updates 
> relating to that build of the package (as any one of them can do the 
> audit and post results that have meaning to the other users of that 
> package), use that advantage to report on runtime problems relating to 
> that build of the package and so on.
> 
> Free BSD's policy seems to read that once a new mainline release comes 
> out, users now have to start building their own binary ports for their 
> old version of Free BSD.  Free BSD will no longer provide or even keep 
> around the latest build of each package from the time when the 
> distribution version was current.  I don't expect any back porting of 
> even upgrading of packages after the version is no longer mainline, but 
> I would expect the frozen state from the point it was superceeded to 
> still be available.


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