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Date:      Wed, 25 Sep 2024 20:42:49 +0000
From:      Colin Percival <cperciva@tarsnap.com>
To:        Xin LI <delphij@gmail.com>,  =?UTF-8?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=C3=B8rgrav?= <des@freebsd.org>
Cc:        Shawn Webb <shawn.webb@hardenedbsd.org>, freebsd-arch@freebsd.org,  Li-Wen Hsu <lwhsu@freebsd.org>, Ronald Klop <ronald@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: Deprecating RSA ssh host keys in 16
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On 9/25/24 13:07, Xin LI wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 25, 2024 at 10:25 AM Dag-Erling Smørgrav <des@freebsd.org 
> <mailto:des@freebsd.org>> wrote:
>     Oh, and should we perhaps also disable (non-elliptic) DSA host keys?
> 
> Yes, please remove the generation of DSA host keys (I thought it was removed 
> in 2018 when you imported OpenSSH 7.7, but turns out it's only removed from 
> sshd_config).

DSA host key generation was disabled in af8ee1391d08c (August 2016).  If you
have DSA host keys I think they will get used, but we don't generate them by
default now.

> For the RSA host key I think deprecating now is fine and we should even remove 
> it from the default sshd_config configuration in 15.  OpenSSH implemented 
> ed25519 support in 6.5 (2014), which is 10 years ago, and ecdsa even earlier 
> than that, and for those who really needs it, they can always add it back to 
> sshd_config until the upstream have removed the support, which is probably not 
> going to happen anytime soon.

The place which controls key generation is /etc/rc.d/sshd:

: ${sshd_rsa_enable:="yes"}
: ${sshd_dsa_enable:="no"}
: ${sshd_ecdsa_enable:="yes"}
: ${sshd_ed25519_enable:="yes"}

and obviously the key-generation behaviour can be changed in /etc/rc.conf.

Colin Percival




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