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Date:      Wed, 14 Nov 2007 13:12:39 -0500
From:      "Tamouh H." <hakmi@rogers.com>
To:        "'Barnaby Scott'" <bds@waywood.co.uk>, "'Derek Ragona'" <derek@computinginnovations.com>
Cc:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   RE: Dell PE4600 RAID5 server failing
Message-ID:  <039801c826e9$f1804550$6700a8c0@tamouh>
In-Reply-To: <473B34C5.4030300@waywood.co.uk>
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> 
> Derek Ragona wrote:
> > At 09:00 AM 11/14/2007, Barnaby Scott wrote:
> >> I suspect I already know the answer to this, which is that the 
> >> trouble I am having is nothing to do with the OS at all, 
> but I have 
> >> to ask, because I am otherwise up against a total brick wall!
> >>
> >> I bought a second-hand Dell Poweredge 4600 and installed 
> FreeBSD 6.2 
> >> earlier this year. I had it set up with RAID5 using its PERC3/DC 
> >> controller, with 7 x 73GB disks (+ 1 hot spare). So far so 
> good, and 
> >> it worked faultlessly as a Samba server for several months.
> >>
> >> At the beginning of October, it went down, reporting a mismatch 
> >> between the configuration on the NVRAM and the disks. With 
> help from 
> >> Dell support, I managed to recreate the RAID array and it worked 
> >> again for a month.
> >>
> >> In early November it happened again, and has kept 
> happening since. At 
> >> one point it appeared that the backplane was faulty, so I replaced 
> >> that, but I cannot keep the server up for more than a day or so 
> >> without this 'mismatch' poblem.
> >>
> >> What about diagnostics on the hardware you may ask? I have run all 
> >> the diagnostic tools that Dell can supply - several times 
> - and the 
> >> server declares itself to be totally fault-free.
> >>
> >> My specific questions therefore:
> >>
> >> Is there any way at all that FreeBSD could be invloved with this 
> >> problem? (I did notice for example that the Dell PERC3/DC 
> controller 
> >> was not in the list of supported hardware - but then 
> again, why did 
> >> it work for several months?)
> >>
> >> Can I use FreeBSD to tell me anything about the fault that Dell's 
> >> diagnostic tools haven't found?
> >>
> >> (I do hope someone might be able to help - Dell are trying 
> to get me 
> >> to switch to a 'supported' OS!)
> >>
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >>
> >> Barnaby Scott
> > 
> > It doesn't sound like any OS issue as you set up the RAID 
> outside the 
> > OS.  It may be a bad drive or drive(s).  Most RAID drives have RAID 
> > information written to the drives, and if this becomes 
> unreadable you 
> > will have RAID faults.
> > 
> > Another likely culprit is heat.  Overheating drives often 
> fail.  Are 
> > you sure the temperatures in the drive enclosure is OK?
> > 
> > If you can, run diagnostics on the drives, this usually requires 
> > running these with the drives taken out of the RAID array though.
> > 
> >         -Derek
> > 
> 
> Thanks for replying - as I said, this is a long shot trying 
> to see if there is any OS involvement.
> 
> The drives are fine - I have used two different tools to 
> analyse them while the computer is booted from a live CD and 
> the RAID configuration cleared on the controller. Besides, 
> you would expect one drive to fail at a time, and if this 
> happened, the hot spare would surely be pressed into service. 
> Nothing like this has happened though - the controller is 
> reporting several drives (not always the same ones) failed 
> simultaneously, but when the array is re-created from the 
> disks, everything works fine. Problem is, it goes down again 
> a day or so later.
> 
> As for heat, there is nothing being reported there and the 
> fans that cool that area are working.
> 
> Any other ideas gratefully received!
> 
> Barnaby Scott

This is very unlikely to be OS related. But here are few pointers:

1) Check the make/model of the drives. Certain types of make/model SCSI drives had a glitch in them a while ago with a certain firmware that they'd disconnect from a RAID. I had a personal experience with these ones (Seagate U320).

2) What did happen in October? Anything hardware, software, power wise has occurred ?

3) NVRAM and Disk mismatch, I'd say check the controller, backup battery present but weak ?

4) Unlikely to be the source, but run a test on your physical RAM using MEMTEST86+ and check the power supply is sufficient and working properly.

 





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