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Date:      Sat, 13 Apr 2002 18:54:54 +1000
From:      "Michael Phaze" <michael@roq.com>
To:        "Clemens Hermann" <haribeau@gmx.de>, "Odhiambo Washington" <wash@wananchi.com>
Cc:        <freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: CUSTOM BUILT SERVERS
Message-ID:  <09aa01c1e2c8$e241e370$2701a8c0@MICHAEL2>
References:  <20020411112142.GE90954@ns2.wananchi.com> <20020411134756.A913@idefix.local>

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I am using the qmail/vmailmgr/omail-admin/courier pop+imap/amavis anti virus
setup,  all compiled in the prefix /usr/local/mail so I can move it to
another server if asked (something I have already been told to do by the
boss)

Works ok but I feel its a bit clunky, needing so many deps. (even excluding
amavis)
I have been considering trying the setup from this howto below
http://www.delouw.ch/linux/Postfix-Cyrus-Web-cyradm-HOWTO/html/index.html

I have seen a few people recommend IMP http://www.horde.org/imp/
but going to the web site all it seems to be is webmail php software and not
a complete mail solution, can any one shed some light on this?

----- Original Message -----
From: "Clemens Hermann" <haribeau@gmx.de>
To: "Odhiambo Washington" <wash@wananchi.com>
Cc: <freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG>
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 9:47 PM
Subject: Re: CUSTOM BUILT SERVERS


> Am 11.04.2002 um 14:21:42 schrieb Odhiambo Washington:
>
> Hi Wash,
>
> it's not completely clear to me if you are only looking for an
email-solution or
> also apache config etc.
> So I'll just reply for e-mail for now :).
>
> > 1. Runs on BSD (FreeBSD most preferred)
>
> all MTA'S I know of that run on *NIX do run on FreeBSD
>
> > 2. Has support for virtual domains
>
> this should also be possible at most perhaps every MTA. Postfi'x and qmail
> have good solutions I know of.
>
> > 3. Robust support for aliasing
>
> also true for all "mainstream" MTAs :)
>
> > 4. GUI/Web Interface that will allow a mere 'operator' to manage it
>
> I like omail-admin very much. It has a great bunch of options and is easy
to
> use. You can delegate different domains to different admins. The only
drawback:
> You need a per-domain login so you have to logout and then login again if
you
> want to configure different domains. But this is done in a second.
>
> omail-admin is on top of qmail/vmailmgr which are also both very good
packages.
> qmail has this license-issue (no license at all) but I think most people c
an
> live with this.
>
> > 5. Gives webmail access to both 'real' and 'virtual' users
>
> this does not depend on the MTA. I would recommend imap-based webmail (not
pop3)
> or directly accessing the mail-folder like omail-webmail does it (very
fast, few
> overhead).
> My favourites are horde-imp and squirrelmail.
>
> > 6. Allows strict relay controlling?
>
> you mean smtp-auth/smtp-after-pop and IP-based relaying? postfix/qmail
also
> offer this, Exim and sendmail probably also.
>
> > 7. Flexible MTA (Exim preffered)
>
> didn't you talk about security? Exim is not considered the most secure MTA
> e.g. because of its all-in-one architecture. qmail and postfix are more
> modular and so by design less vulnerable. Furthermore the performance of
> the latter is often said to be very good (especially in comparison to
sendmail).
>
> > 8. Actively developed/supported
>
> qmail and postfix are, donno about the other.
>
> > 9. Possibly bundled with LDAP-based services
>
> qmail-ldap is available and seems to work great. It adds many functions to
stock
> qmail and also has a web-interface for stuff. This interface even allows
to
> login once and configure all domains without logoff/logon.
>
> > 10. Cost effective
>
> the software I was talking about is all free but it will take time to get
into
> the subject.
>
> > 11. Can interface with a proprietary system like EXTENT RBS??
>
> donno about this. What is it?
>
> > My boss suggests we buy something like that (bundled messaging server).
>
> I don't like these out-of the box windows-like solution. They don't offer
> the same flexibility as a custom configured setup. The never fit your
needs as
> a setup where you selected the parts.
> Finally you have to learn your system anyway as admin.
>
> > This would 'free' me from having to worry so much about Exim, virtual
> > domains, courier-imap,
>
> but it might force you to stay at a once bought system and it would also
take
> away all the positive apects of freedom from you :)
>
> > What advise do you have for me on this? Anything that you can recommend
> > will be appreciated.
>
> I have been usind qmail/vmailmgr/omail-admin/omail-webmail for a good
while
> and it has served me very well. I 'll change to imp soon but the rest
keeps as
> it is.
>
> hth
>
> /ch
>
> --
> "Contrary to popular belief, Unix is user friendly.
> It just happens to be selective about who it makes friends with."
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