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Date:      Mon, 30 Jan 2017 21:36:31 -0800
From:      Heasley <heas@shrubbery.net>
To:        jungle Boogie <jungleboogie0@gmail.com>
Cc:        =?utf-8?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=C3=B8rgrav?= <des@des.no>, freebsd-security@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: fbsd11 & sshv1
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Am 30.01.2017 um 14:52 schrieb jungle Boogie <jungleboogie0@gmail.com>:
>=20
>> On 30 January 2017 at 14:24, heasley <heas@shrubbery.net> wrote:
>> Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 01:56:03PM -0800, jungle Boogie:
>>>> On 30 January 2017 at 11:52, heasley <heas@shrubbery.net> wrote:
>>>> Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 01:57:32PM +0100, Dag-Erling Sm=C3=B8rgrav:
>>>>> heasley <heas@shrubbery.net> writes:
>>>>>> So, what is the BCP to support a v1 client for outbound connections o=
n fbsd
>>>>>> 11?  Hopefully one that I do not need to maintain by building a speci=
al ssh
>>>>>> from ports.  Is there a pkg that I'm missing?
>>>>>=20
>>>>> FreeBSD 10 supports SSHv1 and will continue to do so.  FreeBSD 11 and 1=
2
>>>>> do not, and neither does the openssh-portable port.  I'm afraid you wi=
ll
>>>>> have to find some other SSH client.
>>>>=20
>>>> That is sad; I doubt that I am the only one who would need this - there=

>>>> are millions of Cisco, HP, and etc network devices that folks must cont=
inue
>>>> to access but will never receive new firmware with sshv2.  It takes a l=
ong
>>>> time for some equipment to transition to the recycle bin - even after
>>>> vendor EOLs.
>>>=20
>>> Well you have about 7 months until it's deprecated from openssh.
>>> What's wrong with continuing to use openSSH 7.4 post sshv1
>>> deprecation?
>>=20
>> whats wrong with providing a 7.4+v1 port for everyone to use?
>=20
> What will happen when 7.4 gets a vulnerability, then? I don't think
> you or I will be patching it (or anyone else) and therefore, the
> port/pkg will be knowingly vulnerable.
>=20
> Why do we want that?

So you ate advocating telnet? Such a client is likely better still than teln=
et, which is the only alternative.=20

Without a pkg, folks are forced to maintain it themselves. Which is more lik=
ely to receive less attention between now and EoS for v1?

Dont make choices for or impose your rhetoric upon others, provide them the t=
ools to make their choices.=20

>=20
> --=20
> -------
> inum: 883510009027723
> sip: jungleboogie@sip2sip.info




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