Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2023 17:34:13 +0000 (UTC) From: Paul Pathiakis <pathiaki2@yahoo.com> To: FreeBSD Mailing List <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>, Tim Daneliuk <tundra@tundraware.com> Subject: Re: Docker Message-ID: <1096316421.4975742.1681752853038@mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <8714f66b-cd2a-2dd3-67ba-9313522ee1b6@tundraware.com> References: <20230329053443.6ADA6B6AFED5@dhcp-8e64.meeting.ietf.org> <CA%2B1FSijc%2B-OLNsyFNdR=jP3VzMi4zUE92i5iv9Pfg6AryDy_KQ@mail.gmail.com> <34b4b76e-1c41-4cfb-9e86-856f01e8abc9@app.fastmail.com> <CA%2B1FSihVrJ8cZ4ZU6mMr0sKJsZ98V4fh2vpDLugw7MGj-%2BEBPg@mail.gmail.com> <CA%2B1FSijL50mQ-HveBA4HZeNkSoaORv=aty-15nNLzn9amzY_nw@mail.gmail.com> <6002f636-310b-a9fd-b82f-346618976983@timpreston.net> <CA%2B1FSigV_pPwVW%2BDd8WZYGcNQVt7%2BYOcsnJFoRhS6jL5A636pg@mail.gmail.com> <20230412150350.12f97eb2c9dd566b8c8702d2@sohara.org> <CA%2B1FSihVPCQ6tp8u=aqnLyyOPpCMrnhYGcC8bCUgRbFHTdY5sA@mail.gmail.com> <1535315680.2770963.1681309684072@mail.yahoo.com> <20230412155252.5e38ea4728bd52dc798852fc@sohara.org> <1d0a7ed1-9330-49df-9b66-9ee4387de511@app.fastmail.com> <78F4160A-2D26-4A22-9139-A9132FC42688@ellael.org> <20230417133223.3ef5e26c.freebsd@edvax.de> <CA%2B1FSihn%2BB6LTUm7gof6Nd=niL5=dMvQ46HUv=NJ2%2BNhcLS7RQ@mail.gmail.com> <989A99FE-5DA3-4346-B886-32F8E64BA6F0@nimnet.asn.au> <8714f66b-cd2a-2dd3-67ba-9313522ee1b6@tundrawar e.com>
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ROFL.
Personally, I haven't see it yet.=C2=A0 Again, I hated getting a CS degree.=
=C2=A0 It was hell on wheels and kept running me over.=C2=A0 The incredible=
amount of math, automata theory, etc, etc.Then, I got out in the 'real wor=
ld'.=C2=A0 I was thoroughly shocked at how people casually threw aside crit=
ical thinking, design, implementation, project planning, software engineeri=
ng paradigms, and started to 'program' 10 years after I got out.=C2=A0=C2=
=A0
I would look at simple scripts for error checking and proper 'results retur=
n' from function... NOTHING.=C2=A0 "Well, it's just a script, who cares?"
Problem... it carried into their programming practices as well.=C2=A0=C2=A0
Heck, when I was looking at the Assembler functions of two chips (had to be=
able to learn pointers and registers etc if you were going to use K&R C) i=
n our Assembler class.=C2=A0 One was just plain horrible and the other was =
almost magical in the way it worked..... Professor asked which was superior=
... 'magical one'.... "Yes, that's Motorola's 68000 series".....=C2=A0 "Pro=
fessor, what's the junky one?"=C2=A0 "Oh that's iNtel...."=C2=A0 Look at wh=
ere we are now?
Sometimes, people think due to market share and advertising, that something=
is superior.=C2=A0 However, when you have a solid knowledge base (I can't =
possibly explain to people how many times 'THEORY' has come to my rescue to=
come up with a creative solution to a daunting problem and allow me to ste=
er clear of pitfalls) and CONTINUE TO LEARN, you can actually form an INTEL=
LIGENT decision.=C2=A0 However, taking shortcuts, asking people to spoon fe=
ed you the answers.... that's like trying to cheat on exams as you go throu=
gh life....=C2=A0 You never learn and you really never will.
Paul
On Monday, April 17, 2023 at 10:02:57 AM PDT, Tim Daneliuk <tundra@tund=
raware.com> wrote: =20
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On 4/17/23 11:35, Ian Smith wrote:
> most would prefer to raise the average IQ
As an old, grumpy Boomer, I declare this to be so unlikely as to have 0% pr=
obability of happening ;)
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data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Pers=
onally, I haven't see it yet. Again, I hated getting a CS degree.&nbs=
p; It was hell on wheels and kept running me over. The incredible amo=
unt of math, automata theory, etc, etc.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=
=3D"false">Then, I got out in the 'real world'. I was thoroughly shoc=
ked at how people casually threw aside critical thinking, design, implement=
ation, project planning, software engineering paradigms, and started to 'pr=
ogram' 10 years after I got out. </div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-set=
dir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">I would look=
at simple scripts for error checking and proper 'results return' from func=
tion... NOTHING. "Well, it's just a script, who cares?"</div><div dir=
=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"fa=
lse">Problem... it carried into their programming practices as well. &=
nbsp;</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr=
" data-setdir=3D"false">Heck, when I was looking at the Assembler functions=
of two chips (had to be able to learn pointers and registers etc if you we=
re going to use K&R C) in our Assembler class. One was just plain=
horrible and the other was almost magical in the way it worked..... Profes=
sor asked which was superior... 'magical one'.... "Yes, that's Motorola's 6=
8000 series"..... "Professor, what's the junky one?" "Oh that's=
iNtel...." Look at where we are now?</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setd=
ir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Sometimes, pe=
ople think due to market share and advertising, that something is superior.=
However, when you have a solid knowledge base (I can't possibly expl=
ain to people how many times 'THEORY' has come to my rescue to come up with=
a creative solution to a daunting problem and allow me to steer clear of p=
itfalls) and CONTINUE TO LEARN, you can actually form an INTELLIGENT decisi=
on. However, taking shortcuts, asking people to spoon feed you the an=
swers.... that's like trying to cheat on exams as you go through life....&n=
bsp; You never learn and you really never will.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-=
setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Paul</div=
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On Monday, April 17, 2023 at 10:02:57 AM PDT, Tim Danel=
iuk <tundra@tundraware.com> wrote:
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<div><div dir=3D"ltr">On 4/17/23 11:35, Ian Smith wrote:<di=
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none"><br clear=3D"none">As an old, grumpy Boomer, I declare this to be so =
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