Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2013 22:05:55 +0000 From: "Teske, Devin" <Devin.Teske@fisglobal.com> To: Adrian Chadd <adrian@freebsd.org> Cc: Bruce Cran <bruce@cran.org.uk>, freebsd-current <freebsd-current@freebsd.org>, "Teske, Devin" <Devin.Teske@fisglobal.com> Subject: Re: rcs Message-ID: <13CA24D6AB415D428143D44749F57D720FC4C854@LTCFISWMSGMB21.FNFIS.com> In-Reply-To: <CAJ-VmonBwmOsyxWDc=oMFozMvoW2fTu06-yrPgC1h_Ewht5n-g@mail.gmail.com> References: <77307DF8-637D-4295-BF47-8742F1552CE8@orthanc.ca> <20131008031517.GA31864@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> <60177810-8DC4-4EA3-8040-A834B79039D2@orthanc.ca> <52538EDC.2080001@freebsd.org> <52541202.3010707@mu.org> <CA%2Bt49PK2-6UhOpgNUpaP9t7m6a_N7PF8yHaD-QWjLn_=gs1iOg@mail.gmail.com> <1893399957.20131009013424@serebryakov.spb.ru> <CA%2Bt49PLD9R7Y0KwEkKnWwKMnM-MWKWiCDQwcT8_Or7wPz0YDmQ@mail.gmail.com> <52556567.3090309@mu.org> <5255A041.2080501@cran.org.uk> <CAJ-VmonBwmOsyxWDc=oMFozMvoW2fTu06-yrPgC1h_Ewht5n-g@mail.gmail.com>
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On Oct 9, 2013, at 2:48 PM, Adrian Chadd wrote: > On 9 October 2013 11:28, Bruce Cran <bruce@cran.org.uk> wrote: >=20 >> On 10/9/2013 3:17 PM, Alfred Perlstein wrote: >>=20 >>> Only a few years ago you could take a dvd or memstick of FreeBSD and ha= ve >>> 1000s of packages to choose from during your install. That is broken n= ow? >>>=20 >>=20 >> At some point it was decided that the installer should be as simple as >> possible and package installation was a post-install task, for once the >> system was up and running. I think that might be changing with bsdinstall >> getting pkgng support, but it did seem like a fairly major regression at >> the time. >=20 That wasn't the rationale. sysinstall was broken and more people wanted a replacement than wanted to see it fixed. bsdinstall is simply coming of age still (sysinstall had a 15 year run). >=20 > I think it was more a "this is a stepping stone to a bigger change.." .. > and that didn't happen soon after. >=20 Adrian is right. It was a "first step" (nobody intended to see functionality get dropped -- it's a matter of finding the time to replace a 15-year code line -- sysinstall). Only a very small handful of us are actively working on it. It's further al= ong than you think. You can always help out by testing. > The other thing here is the introduction of the uhm, "livefs". It's big a= nd > it took up the space once occupied by the first set of packages. Honestly, > I'm kinda surprised how big base is these days, but I have other fights to > fight right now. >=20 The livefs is a bee in my bonnet too. But as you say... more pressing things to worry about right now than break something that is working currently. --=20 Devin _____________ The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidentia= l. If you are not the intended recipient, please: (i) delete the message an= d all copies; (ii) do not disclose, distribute or use the message in any ma= nner; and (iii) notify the sender immediately. In addition, please be aware= that any message addressed to our domain is subject to archiving and revie= w by persons other than the intended recipient. Thank you.
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