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Date:      Thu, 7 Jan 2016 06:14:09 -0700 (MST)
From:      grahamperrin <grahamperrin@gmail.com>
To:        freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: relaunchd: a portable clone of launchd
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I'm not a developer but I follow these discussions with interest. I'm a
former tester of OS X, in which launchd is (in my experience) very
satisfactory.=20


Mark Heily wrote
> Allow me to clarify the goals of relaunchd and how this affects the
> existing init(8) and rc(8) system in FreeBSD.
>=20
> Unlike the original launchd project, relaunchd is not trying to become PI=
D
> #1 or replace anything in the base system. I am simply asking for help
> getting it fixed up and committed to the ports tree, so it can become an
> alternative for people who want to configure their systems to take
> advantage of the featureset that launchd provides. Choice is good, and I
> don't want to take away people's ability to use nosh, openrc, svc, or
> whatever else meets their needs.

That seems reasonable.=20

nosh caught my eye a couple of months ago. Some attention to PC-BSD was
apparent so I posted highlights under
https://forums.pcbsd.org/thread-20272.html =E2=80=A6 ending when I found a =
section
on the nosh project within the FreeBSD 2015Q3 status report.=20

Re: the third call for 2015Q4 quarterly status reports
<http://freebsd.1045724.n5.nabble.com/second-call-for-2015Q4-quarterly-stat=
us-reports-tp6063452p6064992.html>:=20

* the deadline for submissions is today

=E2=80=93 if it's not too late, I wonder whether something submitted *now* =
could
help the report, when it appears, to put things in context without causing
unnecessary alarm. An explanation of how developments in both project areas
(nosh and relaunchd) may be complementary. =20


> I will try to develop relaunchd in such a way that it *could* be used to
> replace rc(8) if desired, but that would require a lot of work and
> discussion and buy-in from the FreeBSD project leadership. Because
> relaunchd is such a young project, I want to have more realistic goals an=
d
> not worry about what might happen in the longer term. I would consider it
> a major success if, a year from now, the majority of the daemons in the
> ports tree offer support for running under launchd(8) in addition to the
> traditional rc(8) init scripts.





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