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Date:      Fri, 15 Jun 2001 15:05:17 -0600 (MDT)
From:      Nate Williams <nate@yogotech.com>
To:        Jordan Hubbard <jkh@osd.bsdi.com>
Cc:        hackers@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Query:  How to tell if Microsoft is using BSD TCP/IP code?
Message-ID:  <15146.30861.669216.436091@nomad.yogotech.com>
In-Reply-To: <20010615135713Y.jkh@osd.bsdi.com>
References:  <20010615135713Y.jkh@osd.bsdi.com>

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> I've had several marketing types approach me recently for details as
> to whether or not Microsoft was using the BSD TCP/IP stack and/or user
> utilities, and though it's always been "common knowledge" in the
> community that they were, when I set about to "prove" it I found it to
> be less easy than I'd thought.  I've strings'd various binaries and
> DLLs in my copy of Windows 98 but have yet to find anything resembling
> proof.  Does anyone out there have any details or discovery techniques
> for confirming or disproving this assertion either way?  It would be
> very useful (for us) from a PR standpoint to know.

I think the nmap folks noticed that the stack in Win98 (I don't remember
if it was in Win2K as wll) behaved almost exactly like the BSD stack in
ways that weren't mandatory.  Their conclusion was that it had to be
based on the BSD code to get such similar behavior, since no other stack
behaved in this manner.



Nate

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