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Date:      Tue, 14 Jan 2003 20:17:56 -0500 (EST)
From:      Andrew Gallatin <gallatin@cs.duke.edu>
To:        Peter Wemm <peter@wemm.org>
Cc:        John Baldwin <jhb@FreeBSD.org>, Wilko Bulte <wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl>, cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org, Nate Lawson <njl@FreeBSD.org>
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: src/sys/dev/acpica acpi_cpu.c 
Message-ID:  <15908.46788.141735.858350@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu>
In-Reply-To: <20030114230057.81B422A89E@canning.wemm.org>
References:  <20030114173224.A74488@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <20030114230057.81B422A89E@canning.wemm.org>

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Peter Wemm writes:
 > Andrew Gallatin wrote:
 > > John Baldwin [jhb@FreeBSD.org] wrote:
 > > > aggressive policies in the future.  You could change the speed on
 > > > your desktop by changing the performance speed to be 6 (75%) using
 > > > the sysctl for example:
 > > 
 > > The scary thing is that for my destop setup, I can turn my speed down
 > > to 25% on my P4 and not really feel a difference in xterms, editors
 > > and soforth. (I CAN see a difference, I just don't mind it much).
 > > 
 > > Any idea about how much power this actually saves on a desktop?
 > 
 > FWIW, we see a (measured) difference of about 50W on 2.2GHz P4's simply by
 > turning machdep.cpu_idle_hlt on and off.  I expect the clock throttling
 > would make similar differences.  For 1U rack-mount systems (especially in
 > California) this is a Big Deal.

Yes, it is.  2 years ago, just as I was leaving Duke and the Enrons of
the world were raping California consumers, some people in my research
group were looking at doing energy-aware server load balancing.  Eg,
you suspend a server to save power if load is low, and at peak times
you bring additional servers on line.  We were using PIIIs and APM,
waking with wake-on-lan.  I bet everything we did would translate to
P4's and ACPI...

See http://www.cs.duke.edu/ari/publications/balance-of-power.ps
(That's more of a pie-in-the-sky thing.. I don't know where the paper
with the hard numbers went).

Drew


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